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If you're unable to take 1 minute to read a short post, then why even bother replying to it... "I didn't read ur post but this is my opinion about it: hurr derpy durr..." Man, that's like writing a book review on a book you haven't even laid your eyes upon.

Direct quote from your original post: ""report xyz afk", thats what all you fgts (aggramar,tw,spine,mag or nearly every single realm with higher population) spam when you see a obviously new player."

We can clearly see here that you're accusing every single player on these realms for reporting any ungeared trial players out from bgs, on sight. I said I've played on aggramar and TN a lot and never seen any undergeared f2ps get afked out when we are group queing with people from said realms. I agreed that there might be some players who do such things but majority of players don't care if there's a couple scrubs in their team, at least enough to vote them afk. Hence, your statement is proven bullshit, at least from my point of view. I've played on aggramar for about 1,5 years and tens of thousands of hks. How many f2p twinks do you have there that you actively play?

Please don't tell me to "use my brain", it brings absolutely no bonus value for your argument :)

ps. I hope you are not too offended if I used "bullshit" in place of "nonsense" in this post. Can't be bothered to edit them out anymore. Thanks for understanding.



I haven't seen this either in all my games (Spine/Agg/Deathwing - realms i have toons on).

Yes we did afk someone tho, that was Hixyblabla 24 scrub. Yes i've seen from time to time people asking to afk some low geared f2p's bu those people were not from Spine or Deathwing. Dunno about Agg because i play there 10 times/year maybe so it's not conclussive. Thus i tend to believe what Messi has said.

---> madhombre is just mad and overreacting bashing Spine/Agg cuz he purely hates ppl from these realms :)


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I haven't seen this either in all my games (Spine/Agg/Deathwing - realms i have toons on).

Yes we did afk someone tho, that was Hixyblabla 24 scrub. Yes i've seen from time to time people asking to afk some low geared f2p's bu those people were not from Spine or Deathwing. Dunno about Agg because i play there 10 times/year maybe so it's not conclussive. Thus i tend to believe what Messi has said.

---> madhombre is just mad and overreacting bashing Spine/Agg cuz he purely hates ppl from these realms :)


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i dont hate aggramar/spine people, i hate nazis. do with this information what ever you want :)
 
But you do. I'm not even gonna mention something as evil as paying... but you could play a game that was actually designed as a F2P. WoW wasn't.

This is one of the bullshit reasons I was referring to. F2Ps live in their own little bubble, not hurting anyone and if it wasn't for us you wouldn't want to play this bracket. So do you really want us to leave or did you just feel obliged to defend the 24s but couldn't think of a better comeback?

And what are you doing in a F2P forum suggesting us to stop playing? That is really no good idea if you want to be seen as anything else than a hater.
 
Wow wasnt designed for low level pvp at all, or pvp in general tbh, but we're all on a wow twink site, so lets not use design as an argument here

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This is one of the bullshit reasons I was referring to. F2Ps live in their own little bubble, not hurting anyone and if it wasn't for us you wouldn't want to play this bracket. So do you really want us to leave or did you just feel obliged to defend the 24s but couldn't think of a better comeback?

And what are you doing in a F2P forum suggesting us to stop playing? That is really no good idea if you want to be seen as anything else than a hater.

A little piece of advice, don't waste more of your time dude, trust me, not worth it ;)


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This is one of the bullshit reasons I was referring to. F2Ps live in their own little bubble, not hurting anyone and if it wasn't for us you wouldn't want to play this bracket. So do you really want us to leave or did you just feel obliged to defend the 24s but couldn't think of a better comeback?

I could think of a thousand better come backs, but i really don't have to. What I said is spot on. You're playing the trial version of WoW but expect subscriber benefits.

When I order mutton I don't expect steak.

And what are you doing in a F2P forum suggesting us to stop playing? That is really no good idea if you want to be seen as anything else than a hater.

If you're that bothered yes! You should stop playing! Like a said above... Don't book an economy ticket then go piss the people in first class off.

Except what you've chosen or quit. Simple.
 
A little piece of advice, don't waste more of your time dude, trust me, not worth it ;)


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First post of yours I've ever agreed with. It is pointless for YOU to argue with me, you just don't have the capability.

How was today's RL journey BTW? I didn't know the Nazi party conference was so early in the year.
 
I could think of a thousand better come backs, but i really don't have to. What I said is spot on. You're playing the trial version of WoW but expect subscriber benefits.

When I order mutton I don't expect steak.

I don't know what you're picking up here. I have not been asking for more benefits, only added my two cents to this thread while asking 24s to rethink their morals.

And saying you could think of a better comeback but didn't have to proves the same as saying you could have said something smart but didn't know of anything, that's no way to get a point across. You seem to think very highly of yourself but if you want others to see you as anything other than arrogant you need to put some effort into the discussion.

I'm going to follow Achmed's advice now and stop posting in this thread. The heated debates going on here are not getting us anywhere.

PS. Several people here, including you to others (not towards me), are being very vulgar. Calling people names just shows that you lack sophistication, are heated and unable to overpower your adversary through intellectual means (not good).
 
not sure if someone alrdy mentioned it but f2p twinks abuse this bracket just as 24s do it. this bracket was never made for YOU, it was made for new people who wanna try the game...
you guys deserve nothing than being farmed by p2ps :)

Abuse? My abuse is bigger than your abuse!

So if this bracket was made for "newbie" then why twink at level 24 in the Newbie bracket? I'm neutral and peeps can do what they want.. I'm just asking.

I've heard P2Ps say that F2Ps are cheap. Well a lot of F2Ps have sub accounts. On the other hand some like to spend money twinking in the "newbie" bracket. Spending RL money to switch factions to get BIS. Spending money to play and twink in the newbie bracket.... for some its entertaining.
 
Abuse? My abuse is bigger than your abuse!

So if this bracket was made for "newbie" then why twink at level 24 in the Newbie bracket? I'm neutral and peeps can do what they want.. I'm just asking.

I've heard P2Ps say that F2Ps are cheap. Well a lot of F2Ps have sub accounts. On the other hand some like to spend money twinking in the "newbie" bracket. Spending RL money to switch factions to get BIS. Spending money to play and twink in the newbie bracket.... for some its entertaining.

dont get me wrong i dont support p2ps in this bracket, but f2ps say p2ps abuse this bracket to kill poor f2ps while f2p twinks abuse this bracket and let new player not a single chance.
again, this bracket was never made for me, you or other f2p "twinks". there is no problem if you use it the way you want(f2p twinking) but you should accept that other people do the same (p2p twinks), simple as that.
 
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dont get me wrong i dont support p2ps in this bracket, but f2ps say p2ps abuse this bracket to kill poor f2ps while f2p twinks abuse this bracket and let new player not a single chance.

yeah i was just asking in general. You are right. Seasoned F2P twinks will abuse the undergeared newbie.

I remember being afk'ed outta games being told I'm a noob. I didnt even know wtf a BG was. Never played the game b4 and i clicked this button and i was in a bG!

Didn't know where to go, how to get out the enemy base etc. LOL But not everyone abused me. Some gave me tips. Eventually I started gearing up and I'm still learning to play after 3 failtopay years /hic.

I'm guilty too of "abusing" other newbies. I like to think of it as harsh discipline. Get ur shit together then come back...
Very little room in this patch for mistakes where resilience is gone and heals nerfed to an extreme and DPS is cata like with alliance having a slight minute edge with the eyepatch gear etc.

Yes F2Ps roll FOTM... like most brackets. However at least a newbie/noooob can aspire to reach that level with gearing. With the enchants etc the competition decreases with the gap.

Oh well. Each to their own.

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after playing 90bgs I can see the point many p2ps have made that the gear grind is not worth it. I think in WoD they intend to make it easier.

also the bgs at the higher level, 90 in my case is so much fun. for most part i can still pug and have great games. very few have been farmfests or premades.

Rated BGs / wargames are intense. for most part peeps know what they are doing and come geared to the teeth.

Failtopays are limited to just WSG/AB. Fair enuff. You get what you pay... or in this case what you don't. LIMITED play XP to test the game.

But if you sub why would just play this bracket all the time? Don't you get sick of the same bgs over n over?
Again these ?s are not directed at anyone... just my observations after having tasted high level bgs and the variety it brings with a Sub account.

/moo
/motherearth fathersky loves all their children... even 24s abusers /wink
and the failtopay parasites /winkwink

At the end of the day this bracket pops because of the sheer number of F2P toons. END.
 
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i have no morals in video games and play both p2p and f2p depending on weather or not i feel the need to buy gametime. If im paying for the game ill play what i want, ill never claim its right or wrong or moral or anything else. Until blizzard makes a pure f2p bracket you get to deal with the 24's!
 
... And I've repetitively suggested that all 24 twinks be dragged into street and beaten to death.

Because inciting real life violence against people over a video game is a totally reasonable behavior for a rational person to engage in, right?
 
there is no doubt that people who pay only to rape f2ps are retards..they are. but for someone who did quite a few bgs in this bracket the tears from f2ps are kinda annoying.
its free for you, use it or dont. you are 3 years in this bracket so i guess you realised the same thing i did : this bracket is full of scum, it doesnt matter if p2p or f2p. gy farming, emote spaming, fotm classes... thats all.
 
dont get me wrong i dont support p2ps in this bracket, but f2ps say p2ps abuse this bracket to kill poor f2ps while f2p twinks abuse this bracket and let new player not a single chance.
again, this bracket was never made for me, you or other f2p "twinks". there is no problem if you use it the way you want(f2p twinking) but you should accept that other people do the same (p2p twinks), simple as that.

FINALLY someone has said this. It's true, You can't all claim to be these amazing support workers for the bracket. Giving tips and directing all the noobs to T.I.

Most of the bracket is casuals that know nothing of wowhead, farming BIS gear, chest locations, and slightly hidden items such as AGMs or fishing hats. And you guys like it that way. To wield powers that others don't. I've played by F2P rules before and I've seen many F2P twinks engaging in the same actions towards there defenseless jaja opponents. Games with not a single P2P in sight.

One of my F2P rule restricted characters was an enhance shaman. I followed every rule except for I had Enchant Weapon - Lesser Striking - Item - World of Warcraft on my weps. ( an honest mistake ) Throughout the roughly 6 months of his existence, I've had TONS of F2Ps, half of which were likely T.I. members, chew me straight the f**k out for having these enchants. A mere 1 extra damage per weps and no one could stand it. So I kept the enchants on just to see if this continued on. Apparently I was a crutching bad ruining the integrity of the bracket just as much as a BIS 24 twink. Yet none of these clowns had problems having hundreds of health, and tons of stats more than the average JaJas...
 
FINALLY someone has said this. It's true, You can't all claim to be these amazing support workers for the bracket. Giving tips and directing all the noobs to T.I.

Most of the bracket is casuals that know nothing of wowhead, farming BIS gear, chest locations, and slightly hidden items such as AGMs or fishing hats. And you guys like it that way. To wield powers that others don't. I've played by F2P rules before and I've seen many F2P twinks engaging in the same actions towards there defenseless jaja opponents. Games with not a single P2P in sight.

One of my F2P rule restricted characters was an enhance shaman. I followed every rule except for I had Enchant Weapon - Lesser Striking - Item - World of Warcraft on my weps. ( an honest mistake ) Throughout the roughly 6 months of his existence, I've had TONS of F2Ps, half of which were likely T.I. members, chew me straight the f**k out for having these enchants. A mere 1 extra damage per weps and no one could stand it. So I kept the enchants on just to see if this continued on. Apparently I was a crutching bad ruining the integrity of the bracket just as much as a BIS 24 twink. Yet none of these clowns had problems having hundreds of health, and tons of stats more than the average JaJas...

... It doesn't matter if you are a "Jajas," as you put it, or a non-jaja (not sure what the term would be lol) everyone has the same potential... However, the 24s play by a completely different set of rules that give them a vast advantage that is unobtainable to an f2p. That difference is basically how things boil down.

You can argue "Pay for the game if you want to win," but if you plan to pay for the game, why hang out in the 20 bracket? The reason is quite simple: the 24s, and I don't believe a single 24 has posted in this ENTIRE thread to the contrary, became 24s in order to grief those that had somehow wronged them in the past... One could argue against that all they want, but I am fairly certain every 24 started out as an f2p, and then became a 24 to prove a point, or avenge a past wrong etc etc...

Personally, I feel that for one to become/play-as a 24, one has to forgo their pride as a true member of the f2p bracket.
 
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