19 Twink Priest Bis/Spec and other?

[nodoze]

Or maybe this is the perfect place to ask it? It's like folks want the forums to die...

I agree. Asking in a thread in a forum segments the question and leaves out there in a reusable manner compared to discord which is like a constant stream of thought/conversation and can be like diarrhea.

 

[Your Mom]

I agree. Asking in a thread in a forum segments the question and leaves out there in a reusable manner compared to discord which is like a constant stream of thought/conversation and can be like diarrhea.

Indeed.. I cant get answers like that big post previously in a discord.. Ive tried.. That info is gold! I cant wait to test this gearing method. Ive almost got all my new pieces.

 

[Duro]

I'm working on a full guide but here's a TL;DR for now

- A lot of their talents are playable compared to other classes, at least in PuGs.
- In PuGs, always 5/5 Wand Spec. This is the difference between you being bored to death doing nothing in a bad WSG matchup and at least being able to grab Zerker and do some O. You should never be Smiting — only wanding. Regens your mana while you DPS, and puts out 36.25 DPS — or 47.125 DPS with Zerker.
- 2/2 -70% Pushback is a must
- Other 3 points I move around depending on what I feel like doing.
-> Spirit Tap actually works in PvP, and Wand + Zerker makes for some fun combat regen memes because if you swap in Staff of the Friar you essentially regen to full (in combat!) over a few seconds while wanding.
-> I prefer 3/3 Imp Renew (+1 HP per tick per point) - this is actually worth exactly 6.5 Healing Power per point.

Here’s my Priest
1032 HP w/Fort
1030 Mana
+186 Healing (+30 more next patch)
52–53 HP ticks with 3/3 Imp Renew. 49-50 without.
57-58 HP ticks next phase.
+~265 HP for 65 mana (Renew)
+~160 HP for 30 mana (Renew Rank 1)
- Rank 1 Renew heals 60% more HP than base Rank 2 for less than half the mana!

Occasionally drop +16 Healing for +200 HP Librams vs Melee heavy BGs. This drops ticks to 49-50 w/Imp Renew - 46-47 without. 8 SP = 1.24HP/tick

This set turns 195 mana into an instant 176 HP shield followed by a 262 HP heal — every 15 seconds on repeat.

- "Immune" to dying to most damage due to negating an almost constant 30 HP per second. If they start dispel/purging just swap to Rank 1 to outlast them or just cast heal.
- Rogues are the only problem class 1v1. I'll end up OOM or Kicked/Gouged to death - every. time.
- Swap into Witching Stave for +40 damage DoTs followed by ~+10 damage Mind Blasts.
- 9 second PvP rotation: Equip SotBS > PW:S > Renew > Equip WS > SW: P > Mind Blast > SotF > Wanding / Repeat
- 438 HP healed, ~610 damage done.
- When renew drops to 3 seconds, equip SotBS and repeat.
- Generic weapon rotation - Twisted Chanter’s Staff (+22 Intellect) > Staff of the Blessed Seer (+55 Healing) > Staff of the Friar (+20 Spirit)
- The extra +31 Spirit adds 7.75 mana every 2 seconds while not casting (including while wanding).
- Run a Witching Stave (+30 Spell Power) to DoT and Mind Blast. 41 Shadow Damage adds 38-39 extra damage over the entire SW: P and adds ~10 damage to Mind Blast, which means 1 GCD is worth an extra 48 damage for 0 mana (and also means -1.5s on the 5SR).
- Renew improved by >150%
- Your normal 3 second (2.5 w/talents) Heal gives an additional 40% HP!
- Desperate prayer gives ~73 extra HP with the set.

Offensive Spirit Tap / Wand Spec
- Really good for controlling mid
- Witching Stave to DoT up the entire team
- Mind Blast off CD w/Witching Stave
- Swap into Friar Staff during downtime and start wanding
- +374.5 mana per Spirit Tap proc aka per Killing Blow
- Renews will still tick for 38-39.
- Very good for infinitely playing attrition in mid as long as you can steal KBs.

BONUS MEME
- Minor Recombobulators heal for 336-436 HP (it looks like a flat +186 HP due to the cooldown)!

I rarely CAST any heals during objective based gameplay unless it's on the FC or myself. Most of my time spent standing is to wand or Mind Blast.

I very much recommend NOT skipping Witching Stave +30 SP and the Wand Spec. You will feel like a fish out of water during PuGs if you can't do any DPS. The staff adds over 10 DPS when swapping in, and Wand Spec adds a 7.25 constant DPS while attacking.

This is probably one of the most expensive 19 builds in the bracket.

Playing a mobile healing Priest feels like a totally different class since you usually only stop to DPS.

Glad you did the math, but when it comes down to it you have to look at application. 160 hp in a battleground is nothing and could be about as useful as food out of combat. You inevitably are going to be forced to use higher rank heals if a target is getting focused. I specifically want to talk about the choice to +16 sp/hp vs 200hp because I would get neither. A good priest really should be stacking int/mana. Your job is a dispel bot with a little healing. And when you use higher ranks of your heals, then +healing becomes irrelevant vs mana anyway. Your job as a priest is dispels, but I could see a mindblast here and there would be a good idea. I agree with everything else about dps and sp scaling in pugs that you talked about that people inevitably overlook as a priest.

 

[CIHC]

Im thinking of going 10% stun, 3/5 stun reduction and 3/3 70% anti pushback.

This looks honestly about right. Though if you need to dps and are oom you do need wand.

 

[Your Mom]

This looks honestly about right. Though if you need to dps and are oom you do need wand.

I wouldnt be making a priest without it.. Im def going wand spec and anti pushback. Seems most optimal given the op wand. And priest casts being kinda a joke.

 

[CIHC]

The problem is if you have peels you can free cast for the most part. Mostly other people/classes who have CC to literally peel for you like it is a literal a arena or RBG 2k+ at end game. Though, most of this community knows what the fuck they are doing so I mean. It depends on who you are running with and what realm you are on.

 

[Your Mom]

The problem is if you have peels you can free cast for the most part. Mostly other people/classes who have CC to literally peel for you like it is a literal a arena or RBG 2k+ at end game. Though, most of this community knows what the fuck they are doing so I mean. It depends on who you are running with and what realm you are on.

I find that half of the bgs Im in a rarely all twinks who know what they are doing.. its mostly face rollers who farm hks and arent where the meta needs them. I tend to run with a crew of people who are fairly decent.. but not more than.. and one exceptional who is an extremely skilled hunter friend.. one of the few I respect. What I need most is to be a Heal bot.. but be able to still kill annoying huntard pets from one of the many bads.. and not be completely trashed on by the usual bad rogues..Many who think they can dodge from behind.

Everything info wise in this thread has revolutionized my preist game play.

My friend is the reason I rolled a healer.. she changes the tide of a battle ground as long as she lives.

 

[CIHC]

I find that half of the bgs Im in a rarely all twinks who know what they are doing.

Pity. Xp and Xpoff npc has done this. People think XPOFF means oh everything is fucking fair like 120 but we all know it isn't.

Those of us, dude/dear/pronoun. I've been here for eons, I know how to play the bracket. People who are in BoA's and not geared that decide?

"oh gee, let me try this." jfc. It is literally like a fully geated 375+ DH in a pug. I get it.\

Then again party sync so whatever who knows what the fuck Blizzard / Shitativision is doing.

 

[iaccidentallytwink]

Glad you did the math, but when it comes down to it you have to look at application. 160 hp in a battleground is nothing and could be about as useful as food out of combat. You inevitably are going to be forced to use higher rank heals if a target is getting focused. I specifically want to talk about the choice to +16 sp/hp vs 200hp because I would get neither. A good priest really should be stacking int/mana. Your job is a dispel bot with a little healing. And when you use higher ranks of your heals, then +healing becomes irrelevant vs mana anyway. Your job as a priest is dispels, but I could see a mindblast here and there would be a good idea. I agree with everything else about dps and sp scaling in pugs that you talked about that people inevitably overlook as a priest.

Don't particularly disagree, I think it's a different role that I like to play and not sure it would fit in a serious group/premade without the comp adjusting accordingly. But it is fresh and fun and I do well with it and my groups enjoy it.

My casted heals are at minimum 30% better (40%+ for higher ranks), so I disagree that the +healing is irrelevant - it's similar to having ~30% more mana (but on less targets, which is fine when I only cast heals on FC or myself generally). Also, the 2.5x renews give me a lot more time to be able to stop and cast during fights if I have to.

I probably would agree that I'd never go for the +16 SP over +300 mana in a premade, even if I decided to keep everything else for some reason (though if my primary job really is to dispel, yeah I'd be going full mana).

 

[Your Mom]

Pity. Xp and Xpoff npc has done this. People think XPOFF means oh everything is fucking fair like 120 but we all know it isn't.

Those of us, dude/dear/pronoun. I've been here for eons, I know how to play the bracket. People who are in BoA's and not geared that decide?

"oh gee, let me try this." jfc. It is literally like a fully geated 375+ DH in a pug. I get it.\

Then again party sync so whatever who knows what the fuck Blizzard / Shitativision is doing.

BOAS? This is the classic thread for twink priest.
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Glad you did the math, but when it comes down to it you have to look at application. 160 hp in a battleground is nothing and could be about as useful as food out of combat. You inevitably are going to be forced to use higher rank heals if a target is getting focused. I specifically want to talk about the choice to +16 sp/hp vs 200hp because I would get neither. A good priest really should be stacking int/mana. Your job is a dispel bot with a little healing. And when you use higher ranks of your heals, then +healing becomes irrelevant vs mana anyway. Your job as a priest is dispels, but I could see a mindblast here and there would be a good idea. I agree with everything else about dps and sp scaling in pugs that you talked about that people inevitably overlook as a priest.

So you are telling me how to play preist poorly by not healing my allies.. The part that I find fun.. Nthks.

 

[CIHC]

BOAS? This is the classic thread for twink priest.

oh right I'm in a classic thread.

 

[Your Mom]

oh right I'm in a classic thread.

If I understand what yeh talking about.. sounds miserable.

 

[Arkant]

So you are telling me how to play preist poorly by not healing my allies.. The part that I find fun.. Nthks.

You should probably learn to read before engaging in conversations on a forum.

 

[Your Mom]

You should probably learn to read before engaging in conversations on a forum.

I can read just fine.. why you attacking me brah? Salty?

Whenever you are ready to be civil instead of trying and failing, to insult me, Im ready...


Edit: yeh.. thats what I thought. Just another troll.