Megingjard
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As some of you probably know, there was a masta ballerz vs Laughing Skull FTW premade scheduled to happen at 9:00 EST last night. This would have been the first premade to go down in quite some time, and I was very excited to play for ballerz. Unfortunately, the premade didn't happen because of timing issues. Some players in ballerz were late and some players in LS has to leave early. I don't think the blame can be put entirely on one side, but this is not the point of the thread. I feel the entire situation was poorly handled, which is a shame considering how much fun a premade can be. It just seems like no one wants to ****ing play 10v10 any more. It just feels like people are content waiting 5 minutes for a WSG pop just to find out that their team has three 800 hp dwarf rogues, and the opposing team has a 5 man premade from a popular guild. How the **** is it possible that there are multiple twink guilds who constantly have 7-8 players online, but no one has done a premade in months?
Seriously, do you guys really enjoy queueing for WSG, waiting 5 minutes for a pop, resulting in what 90% of the time will be a one sided game?
The problem, in my opinion, is that people are ****ing scared shitless of premading without THE PERFECT CONDITIONS. When MB had 8 or 9 players at 9:00, we waited 20 minutes to have everyone on. By the time everyone was on, 1 or 2 players from LS had logged off. MB didn't want to go in with just 8, and LS didn't want to go in with just 8. Even though an 8v8 would have been a ****ing fun as hell game, people were pissed and decided to just log the **** off or do wargames or something stupid.
Most surprisingly, people ON BOTH SIDES had commitments at 9:30 which somehow they expected to be able to make it to, even though it is ****ing clear with the broken queue system that it would have taken more than 15 minutes to get all 4 groups of 5 people to pop into the same game. How the **** are you going to tell your guild you can commit to a premade at 9:00 and then expect everything to go perfectly and be done by 9:30? This isn't even the biggest problem.
This isn't just a shot at MB and LS. I've joined a few guilds since I started twinking again last May, and every time I ask if they are planning to premade against WT, it is always "yeah we will, when we have a good group of 10" or "it's in planning, just you wait" and it never ****ing happens. People are scared to lose to WT and it's ****ing dumb. At the moment, there is a 17 page thread where like 30+ different people have posted about premading against WT but somehow there aren't even 10 people who can queue together to play against them. WHY NOT DO A PREMADE OF 2 GROUPS OF 5 PEOPLE FROM 2 DIFFERENT GUILDS? We have the blizzard forum, we have a ****ing private community forum, we have realID, we have a public ventrilo, what the **** are we missing? I'll tell you what what's missing, the guilds on the alliance have apparently had their balls cut off because they're too ****ing scared to log onto ventrilo or the forums and say "hey, there are 10 good alliance players that would like to have an ACTUAL GAME against 10 good horde players, let's ****ING PLAY WSG". It doesn't even have to be against WT, WPA had 10 people on to do wargames the other day, LS had 10 on, I know there are a bunch of other semi-active horde guilds and alliance also has a few active guilds.
but it never happens
people are content queueing into games where there are 800 hp players, people are content with playing one-sided games or games that APPEAR to be competitive with 2 teams turtling until one team realizes they have 4 rogues and just go for the win and it's a waste of everyone's time
I was in a game the other day on my horde priest with 5 WT against a premade of 4 Use Splash Attack, which was unfortunate for the alliance side because they had about 4 bad players while our side had 6 good players and 2 good pugs. However every encounter of even matchup against the USA players was fun as ****. PEOPLE ACTUALLY COORDINATED CC. PEOPLE ACTUALLY DID THINGS THAT REQUIRED SKILL. I was reminded of a time when pvp was actually fun, which I haven't been reminded of in quite some time. A time when there was no expectation of a line of retarded pug male draenei hunters with names like LOLEZHEADSHOTX running alone from the graveyard into 8 enemy players in mid and dying for 25 minutes straight.
****, there are good players on both sides. There's no ****ING reason with realID and vent and TWO ****ING FORUMS we shouldn't be having premade games every week or every other week, or even twice a week for christ's sake. I'm tired of paying $16 a month to queue wsg for shitty games when I know that there are good players on both sides that would LOVE to play a competitive game for once.
TL;DR log on vent and schedule premades you lazy ****s.
/rant
Seriously, do you guys really enjoy queueing for WSG, waiting 5 minutes for a pop, resulting in what 90% of the time will be a one sided game?
The problem, in my opinion, is that people are ****ing scared shitless of premading without THE PERFECT CONDITIONS. When MB had 8 or 9 players at 9:00, we waited 20 minutes to have everyone on. By the time everyone was on, 1 or 2 players from LS had logged off. MB didn't want to go in with just 8, and LS didn't want to go in with just 8. Even though an 8v8 would have been a ****ing fun as hell game, people were pissed and decided to just log the **** off or do wargames or something stupid.
Most surprisingly, people ON BOTH SIDES had commitments at 9:30 which somehow they expected to be able to make it to, even though it is ****ing clear with the broken queue system that it would have taken more than 15 minutes to get all 4 groups of 5 people to pop into the same game. How the **** are you going to tell your guild you can commit to a premade at 9:00 and then expect everything to go perfectly and be done by 9:30? This isn't even the biggest problem.
This isn't just a shot at MB and LS. I've joined a few guilds since I started twinking again last May, and every time I ask if they are planning to premade against WT, it is always "yeah we will, when we have a good group of 10" or "it's in planning, just you wait" and it never ****ing happens. People are scared to lose to WT and it's ****ing dumb. At the moment, there is a 17 page thread where like 30+ different people have posted about premading against WT but somehow there aren't even 10 people who can queue together to play against them. WHY NOT DO A PREMADE OF 2 GROUPS OF 5 PEOPLE FROM 2 DIFFERENT GUILDS? We have the blizzard forum, we have a ****ing private community forum, we have realID, we have a public ventrilo, what the **** are we missing? I'll tell you what what's missing, the guilds on the alliance have apparently had their balls cut off because they're too ****ing scared to log onto ventrilo or the forums and say "hey, there are 10 good alliance players that would like to have an ACTUAL GAME against 10 good horde players, let's ****ING PLAY WSG". It doesn't even have to be against WT, WPA had 10 people on to do wargames the other day, LS had 10 on, I know there are a bunch of other semi-active horde guilds and alliance also has a few active guilds.
but it never happens
people are content queueing into games where there are 800 hp players, people are content with playing one-sided games or games that APPEAR to be competitive with 2 teams turtling until one team realizes they have 4 rogues and just go for the win and it's a waste of everyone's time
I was in a game the other day on my horde priest with 5 WT against a premade of 4 Use Splash Attack, which was unfortunate for the alliance side because they had about 4 bad players while our side had 6 good players and 2 good pugs. However every encounter of even matchup against the USA players was fun as ****. PEOPLE ACTUALLY COORDINATED CC. PEOPLE ACTUALLY DID THINGS THAT REQUIRED SKILL. I was reminded of a time when pvp was actually fun, which I haven't been reminded of in quite some time. A time when there was no expectation of a line of retarded pug male draenei hunters with names like LOLEZHEADSHOTX running alone from the graveyard into 8 enemy players in mid and dying for 25 minutes straight.
****, there are good players on both sides. There's no ****ING reason with realID and vent and TWO ****ING FORUMS we shouldn't be having premade games every week or every other week, or even twice a week for christ's sake. I'm tired of paying $16 a month to queue wsg for shitty games when I know that there are good players on both sides that would LOVE to play a competitive game for once.
TL;DR log on vent and schedule premades you lazy ****s.
/rant
