10v10 Premade Rules

Livingforce said:
Sanit the rules state that jumps are fine, just jumps that only certain class/races can do need to be eliminated otherwise games will go on for 2 hours plus because some people mechanically cannot do the jumps.
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Sorry, but I don't think there's a single jump that will cause a game to be extended to 2 hours just because it is used.



I'm allowing as many jumps as possible at the same time theres jumps just some classes/races can and CAN'T do.


How can you justify all jumps are fair when theres mechanic limitations on certain classes/races/genders? You can't you have to be rational about it.
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I chose to roll dwarf priest for stoneform & fear ward. I knew that when I chose this race/class combo there would be a number of jumps that are unavailable/more difficult to me. I could have rolled fem human and walked right through half the jumps that give my dwarf trouble. Mind you, this is all at 60 where I have many other activities I could participate in - so PVP isnt my main focus.

Now apply that to twinks, characters who are MADE for pvp. Would I still roll dwarf, knowing that it gimps me for wsg jumps? Yes. 100 times over yes. Is it really so hard to see jumps as an extension of racials especially when competitive PVP is the "end game"?

If you're concerned about gender just use imorph like any other normal human being in 2020.

You have to consider one faction usually has more jumps to their benefit then others. Just got to make sure you balance it out so its fair.

If all classes could do the jumps and it was even on both sides i would not ban one single jump.
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More jumps on one side vs the other is a conversation I'd be willing to entertain - but even that is a stretch. I'd have to see what all the complaints were about before making a judgement call.

In the case of different classes not being able to do jumps? The only ones affected are hunter/druid (MAYBE mage??). If I wanted to played a homogenized version of this game I'd go play retail instead. Banning jumps because of a speed requirement is dumb.

^ If this happens to be a case where you replaced the word "race" with "class" then ignore this paragraph.
 
All the bad FCs out there arguing to keep their precious crutch jumps is so cute. That just means they understand they are trash without those as a crutch.
 
Neglected said:
All the bad FCs out there arguing to keep their precious crutch jumps is so cute. That just means they understand they are trash without those as a crutch.
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Muffin-Snack-Pack said:
Complains that he is tired of the same argument that has been going on for a decade. Proceeds to make a case for the other side of the argument.

/golfclap
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Man with all the activity you US East guys are experiencing it's hard to imagine how you find time to post on the forums.

Edit: it's cute that you guys are trying to make your opinions heard, as if there are any premades worth playing in on east :^ )

Don't let those hard jumps discourage you, one of these days you'll manage to figure out how spacebar works!
 
Sanit said:
Man with all the activity you US East guys are experiencing it's hard to imagine how you find time to post on the forums.
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HAHAHA man that was a good one! US West is clearly much more active since you don't have time to post here... oh wait.

But nice attempt to deflect that you are bad and are crutching on terrain exploits and whining like a little girl at the thought of them getting taken away.
 
Neglected said:
HAHAHA man that was a good one! US West is clearly much more active since you don't have time to post here... oh wait.

But nice attempt to deflect that you are bad and are crutching on terrain exploits and whining like a little girl at the thought of them getting taken away.
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I've been sitting camping a Prince Nazjak spawn for the last 12+ hours. Not much else to do but make fun of shitkids who can't learn 15 year old jumps :^ )

Wasn't rlly deflecting tho since I don't play FC and don't even have my own 39 atm lel. Don't get so upset buddy, competition is low in US East you won't have to worry about learning jumps even after my 39 is done.
 
Can the title be edited to something akin "Proposed baseline ruleset for US West prems" if even that claim can be made?

These kindergarten rules have no place anywhere else.
 
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