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Had to check the iconic items, man.

Got BETA access, did some quick testing. My warrior's stats on BETA: 2200-2400 HP (22% haste during Enrage) With haste weapons (no haste trinkets) I can crit above 1k rather easily as arms. Base movement speed as arms now (10% from talent) - On soloing dungeons as a warrior...

Nobody said that, though.

How dare you forget me :FrogeTorch:

Yeah we got that from the class you play.

Also get full +speed tertiary gear. oh nvm.

same here, 2 min queue.

In all fairness I don't feel like you can compare 19 twinks in tbc to 20-29 twinks now anyway. 20-29 was old 60 and lv70 and is in no way comparable to tbc 19s due to the sheer difference in gearing. In tbc-wrath lv60 twinks definitely had one-shot potential depending on the class. That's no...

Just logged in on my tier-3 lock, joined bg, played 18-4 without a healer and then logged out again. Destro is a clown spec. The base damage of abilities is way too fucking high.

Had a picnic.

I do. I do. Didn't you 20s get oneshot anyway? I thought that was the main complaint here.

Thank you. So many people act like it's the holy grail of twinking, it pisses me off to read.

It is. It's not worth getting vers unless you get at least 35-50% but to get to that much you have to actually gem it, and if you gem it you can't gem any other stats which means you end up with like, 45% vers and 10% or less of anything else. And even then you only have maybe 17%-20% damage...

That's cuz versa is a shit stat anyway. No but I'm wondering why everyone else has this problem but I don't, at all. I can often tank like, 8 people bursting me for about 20-30 seconds til I die, and that's solo as a warrior. Yet everyone else around me is somehow getting one-shot by stuff...

literally just warlocks and hunters though. that's a class issue not a level issue.

Fair enough.

You're going to ban the only reason warriors deal high damage at lv20?

Hunter Weapon.

Okay but for EU it's why there's slow-to-no queue rn.

It's literally 2 AM but ok. Queue was instant pop two hours ago for me.