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I saw 6 alliance queing last night for wsg res, that's hardly a bracket :P

lal. Ok, let's not get personal.

Talisman of arathor is physical damage only medan. It absorbs much less damage than AGM also. Ask any rogue who played before and after with AGM and they all say the utility AGM brings is game changing. How can it not be?

And this time it's not me!

Medan, instead of just taking the opposite side, what is your actual opinion on it?

Oh kutty...

Easy man, if you read the post we are doing it in the best interests of the bracket.

It's kind of hard not to be a little bit annoyed, after all, there is a 13 page thread on the suggestions. I almost feel like we got trolled!

We will be setting out a mandate for no boa's or agm, and heavy runecloth as max first aid. Please read the forum posts.

We won't be considering AGM use, so farming population is irrelevant.

I'm sorry but AGM+Vanish is a free reset - it's how priests lose to rogues 1v1, and how rogue teams get a free reset. AB trinket only absorbs bleeds, and not DOTS. I know for a fact that playing without AGM as a rogue makes it a lot harder. I can't see how you can argue with that. I will...

That's not true, a rogue with tidal can easily reverse being opened on, not to mention getting a gouge off or a vanish cs at the right moment.

It's too intricate, we have to make rules across the board. It won't put people off, nearly everyone here is in favour of no agms and no boas! And the first aid nerf. Let's pretend im ghostcrawler, and you don't have a say in the matter, and now you have to work around the limitations!

Actually from my perspective, and I consider myself a complete rogue, AGM+Vanish actually lowers the skill cap. It's a super strong version of clos, is strong enough to hold out a dot duration, and provides a free reset, so rogues don't try and watch bleed and dot timers and chuck in some CC to...

Medan stop complicating things. No AGM full stop! No BOA's full stop! You do not need BOA's and they are a gear advantage of those without mains at the server. This is mind numbingly simple to understand, I don't know why people are questioning it. We can't enforce complex rules like...

Are you online eloz, medan?

Len's are not being ruled out. Any profession is allowed, along with the gearing it allows. The only requests i'd put out right now are the list i mentioned above. 1. No AGM's 2. No BoA's 3. Max of Heavy Runecloth first aid. 4. Everything else goes! They are not complex...

So heavy runecloth is the highest bandage you can make at 39? 290 skill right?

I think heavy runecloth is the highest you can make with 300 first aid? 2000/8 healing is strong enough I think.

Well all the active racials are pretty even, bloodfury, smeld, EMFHS, WoTF etc, I was talking about balancing the passives so rogues have equal chance to find each other. Human perception/Nelf is 1 active detection level/stealth level (+6), heightened senses is +3 per point, and stealth on...