Are 20s twinks mainly for pvp or can they solo dungeons like lvl11s?

dopeanator

Member
Most guides I've seen are mainly focused on pvp, are there any builds/guides that are specific to soloing dungeons?
 
What are your reasons for wanting to do 20? Are you planning on also doing pvp as well? Or just because you are on f2p? I think there are better options for pve twinks, especially if you have a sub.
 
What are your reasons for wanting to do 20? Are you planning on also doing pvp as well? Or just because you are on f2p? I think there are better options for pve twinks, especially if you have a sub.
I have a sub and a lvl 11 fury warrior that's kinda decked out. I can solo pretty much every dungeon. the only thing is I wanted a higher level one so there's more to do, even a few more skills to use will give a better experience. I dont really need a lvl 20, I just picked it because I thought the higher the level you go the less effective twinking gets.
 
I'm getting shit on in stratholm. specifically by the ghost boss. I just can't outheal even with potions.
Yeah unfortunately strat is probably not a dungeon you can just ape, at any level

At 20 most of the speed runs involve dropping combat using items or abilities. 20s shouldn’t have a problem with any boss either

It’s just a little more nuanced than basic warrior + lifesteal + whirlwind
 
+1 for Surv hunter. Strong as hell and also pretty fun. Take a tank pet and be more-or-less unkillable

I'd love to recommend warrior and while it can chunk through bosses pretty well and it's 100% cool factor, if you're wanting to move through dungeons quickly on a 20%, it's not the move
 
I just picked it because I thought the higher the level you go the less effective twinking gets.
I think this is not really as true as it was in previous xpacs. 10s/11s are still really good because they benefit from so many unintended things like overleveled gear from tw dungeons, or enchants like lifestealing that are overpowered for that level. But if you want a higher level twink maybe look at 30s or even 50s. I just solo'd both wings of chromie time strath with my 50 ret pal, dead side took me like 10 min to kill my way thru everything, and rivendare was a 45 sec fight. I did have to self heal quite a bit throughout the dungeon tho.
 
Last edited:
10s and 11s even 20s can be crashed or boosted on a patch, prepatch, expac either intentionally or unintentionally by blizzard

during DF we had WOD epic gear, ooze trink, 20s had more power, players did 10s and some 11-14's which alot more fury's went 14 with dual crusader being the thing. at some point LS was unsquished and somewhat buffed and increased proc from it was in van wow and BC. at first was mostly used by 10 MW/BM monks. the ooze proc was so good and reliable i was soloing dungeons with enchants like +6 AP, mark of the shattered hand, the wotlk +SP enchants, +1 scope with no issues, i solo farmed a few 10s and 20s to full WOD epic gear

TWW we all got slammed, many regeared to BC/Wotlk socket gear due to being able to use SL heal/speed etc gems that were gated before. then came TW dungeons for 4 months with ilvl-56 gear for 10s, 60 gear for 11s which added alot of power and survival. the 96 gear for 20s other than maybe a wpn does not help a 20 as much. ooze proc rate got lowered, when it pops the damage is as before, on my 20s at times the proc can come too late. even my 20s that have full socket gear i used during SL feel weak due to class changes that even a ooze trink can't carry.
 
Everyone is really pessimistic about 20s.

I’m here to say that it’s misplaced. Any 20 that can stealth or drop combat can smash dungeons just as well as an 11 warr just whirlwinding through the whole thing. saying that a 20 cant solo dungeons quickly is incorrect

Ooze is part of it for sure. And should be one of the first steps in building your 20, along with WoD precious band. You will have to work harder for gear at 20 than you would on an 11

But between ooze procs and SL gem heals no reasonable 20 is not able to solo any boss, with ease I might add

I personally have not spent more than 5mins full clearing most dungeons (provided there isn’t any unskippable mechanics)
 
Most guides I've seen are mainly focused on pvp, are there any builds/guides that are specific to soloing dungeons?
20 Guardian Druid, Vengeance DH, Brewmaster Monk, Destro Warlock, Resto Shaman, Survival Hunter, Holy Priest, Prot and Ret Paly can all solo dungeons without too much issue.
Get decent gear and enchants to make it go smoother.

I haven't tried other classes/specs but guessing that Mages and Warriors will be quite a challenge. Rogues....lol
Will be trying an Evoker this week.
 
guessing that Mages and Warriors will be quite a challenge.
I'm a stubborn asshole and play arms only, so maybe fury is better i dunno, but speccing into Ignore Pain is enough to not really have to worry about dying. And Mortal Strike chunks bosses pretty hard. Being a F2P warrior means I cant get Ooze and even still I dont feel like Im killing too slowly. Honestly, I kinda enjoy that I dont one-shot my way through things. I actually get the occasional boss mechanic to worry about lol.

I'd say the only "challenge" is just the mental one of accepting that its not quite as fast as some other specs. But between Bloodthorn Loop letting me run through half a dungeon and decent enough single target DPS, it's really not terrible.

If I was a NElf, having SMeld would really speed things up.
 
20 Guardian Druid, Vengeance DH, Brewmaster Monk, Destro Warlock, Resto Shaman, Survival Hunter, Holy Priest, Prot and Ret Paly can all solo dungeons without too much issue.
Get decent gear and enchants to make it go smoother.

I haven't tried other classes/specs but guessing that Mages and Warriors will be quite a challenge. Rogues....lol
Will be trying an Evoker this week.
BM hunter can solo as well, not as high damage as Survival but with exotic spirit beast you get 2 extra healing spells so you don't have to worry about your HP.
 
ele sham is also very good for soloing, i even prefer it over resto now, double earthquake stacking does a lot more aoe than acid rain and i like doing big aoe pulls/kiting
no dungeon has given me any trouble at all and i've done a lot of them
 
What are your reasons for wanting to do 20? Are you planning on also doing pvp as well? Or just because you are on f2p? I think there are better options for pve twinks, especially if you have a sub.
A 20 twink to clear dungeons has several advantages over a 10/11:

1. Access to more dungeons
2. You avoid the queue delays of being XP locked;
3. You avoid the XP debuff of being XP locked, which is now more of an issue because that seems to be why Blizzard was banning people.

I'm looking for a good 20 option too. I've tried Hunter (BM, MM and Survival) and I'm not impressed, mainly because the Hunter talents at low level are awful since the TWW prepatch, particularly losing the 30% speed out of combat. Like literally all of the Hunter tree abilities are useleess up to 20. Granted I'm not fully geared out but I find my Hunter is barely better in TW dungeons than other toons and nowhere near a 10/11.

I've tempted to try Druid because they're so flexible with Prowl but Guardian Druid damage isn't great. It's fine at low level.

I've heard Resto Shaman is good, probably for the same reason MW Monk is good (MW Monks get a damage boost to Spinning Crane Kick) but I haven't tried it.

I'm a little skeptical of Prot Paladin at 20 just becasue you don't have a ton of talents for generating Holy Power so I'm not sure what youre damage will be like. Plus no AoE ability you can spam is kind of a downer.
 
A 20 twink to clear dungeons has several advantages over a 10/11:

1. Access to more dungeons
2. You avoid the queue delays of being XP locked;
3. You avoid the XP debuff of being XP locked, which is now more of an issue because that seems to be why Blizzard was banning people.

I'm looking for a good 20 option too. I've tried Hunter (BM, MM and Survival) and I'm not impressed, mainly because the Hunter talents at low level are awful since the TWW prepatch, particularly losing the 30% speed out of combat. Like literally all of the Hunter tree abilities are useleess up to 20. Granted I'm not fully geared out but I find my Hunter is barely better in TW dungeons than other toons and nowhere near a 10/11.

I've tempted to try Druid because they're so flexible with Prowl but Guardian Druid damage isn't great. It's fine at low level.

I've heard Resto Shaman is good, probably for the same reason MW Monk is good (MW Monks get a damage boost to Spinning Crane Kick) but I haven't tried it.

I'm a little skeptical of Prot Paladin at 20 just becasue you don't have a ton of talents for generating Holy Power so I'm not sure what youre damage will be like. Plus no AoE ability you can spam is kind of a downer.
I've been playing prot paladin since making this post and have been having the most success with it. The only thing that prevents me from clearing a dungeon is mechanics or stuns. The main thing was doing the quests for socket items before trying to clear entire dungeons. After a few socket item quest rewards, dungeons got easier and let me progress through them more and more until i was able to clear the dungeons. This is what mine looks like now and i've cleared almost every dungeon i've tried, except sunken temple. https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/stormrage/magninnin/
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top