EU+US Consumables

Chainz said:
You played WW monk fc with parachute cloak and crossed the map in like 2-3 sec every bg and then you called yourself the "best" fc. You have no right at all to speak about druids speed.
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I have every right to speak about druids. You haven't given me one good argument why I shouldn't. Also i never claimed to be the best fc. I said that I was the fc with the most flag caps per wsg (2.3). So if flash bomb worked on monks they shouldve been used on me because it was clearly op.
 
Zuro said:
I have every right to speak about druids. You haven't given me one good argument why I shouldn't. Also i never claimed to be the best. I said that I was the fc with the most flag caps per wsg (2.3). So if flash bomb worked on monks they shouldve been used on me because it was clearly op.
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No you don't. You played that bs shit in MoP when it was OP af and then you cry when other people play resto druid fc against you. You're just a hypocrite that's all.
 
Razqt said:
if no one used consumables the world would be a better place, i dont use anything no matter what class im playing and afaik im doing just fine, imo its just the dumb rats using consumables to make them feel a bit better, if you're good enough at the game then you wont have to use consumables
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If everyone was nice to each other and did not call other people names the world would be a better place too.
 
Using the right consumable at the right time can turn the tides of a match, im all for it.
 
Chainz said:
No you don't. You played that bs shit in MoP when it was OP af and then you cry when other people play resto druid fc against you. You're just a hypocrite that's all.
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All im saying is that Druid Fcs should be flash bombed :) not crying about you playing resto druid.
 
Allybeboba said:
Sadly, to many they only half-a$$ it.
It is easy to tell who the "real" completionists are. All one needs to do is look at their professions, and achievements. Any WoW player worth their salt will have their "main" twink with maxed professions including fishing and first aid. But not everyone is a completionist. That is only for a small percentage of the population of our player base.
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why bother with proffesions on ur twink when u can do it on a main, if u need consumables to crutch on that is
 
Allybeboba said:
"Why bother..." Your quote is the perfect example I was speaking of my friend when I was talking about people halfa$$ing it.
Real twinks are totally twinked, not partially twinked. Some of my twinks even have 575 fishing and have bone/jeweled fishing poles. A person should not skimp on anything for their twink otherwise, they are halfa$$ing it.
You "bother" because you enjoy it and you want your character to be totally maxed out not just half maxed out. Why else would you play the game? At least that is why I play.
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Love you. You have the same point of view of all that that I have too :)

I think that nowadays, getting full BiS became too easy : half are heirlooms, other half is 2 quests and buy at the AH. You up 19 and get geared in, like, 3 hours.

So all these things that might look boring because it's long and doesn't have a huge impact on the game nowadays are seen as not part of twinking. Back in the past, we had to up fishing to get the hat and boots in Strangleronce.

Consumables are part of twinking. If you do not use all the possibilities you have in hands to win, you're not fully playing your twink in my opinion. I don't understand this community saying that, because it's too hard to get, or too expensive, no one should use it. No one should use Shadowfang because it's so expensive on the AH maybe ?

Stop complaining about people using consumables and get these too to play with it aswell. It has nothing to do with a lack of skill. It's just the main purpose of twinking, which is to optimise as much as you can do your character and your game.
 
I mean just by using consumables doesn't make you bad, it means you're scummy.
I've seen great quality players use them and are able to pull off great things WITHOUT RELYING ON THEM.
The problem starts when people are dependant on them and cannot play without them and see them as another spell from their class.
Any bombs, trinkets etc in my opinion isn't scummy. However can be very tilting and I would only use bombs on bm hunter pets and ferals, if you use it on an rDruid fc or whatever it's scummy as it will not improve you as a player.
However goblin gliders, speed potions is very scummy.

As for the classes people play. Yes dexa's fire Mage gear is awful but it's his own call really, but if you have a problem with someone playing Druid fc then you're stupid. It is the best fc and if I saw someone playing an fc rdruid this expac and next expac see them playing a holy paladin ( because it's the best fc ) that is not fotm rolling. That is wanting to fc, and is nothing to be ashamed of.
 
Asterias said:
I mean just by using consumables doesn't make you bad, it means you're scummy.
I've seen great quality players use them and are able to pull off great things WITHOUT RELYING ON THEM.
The problem starts when people are dependant on them and cannot play without them and see them as another spell from their class.
Any bombs, trinkets etc in my opinion isn't scummy. However can be very tilting and I would only use bombs on bm hunter pets and ferals, if you use it on an rDruid fc or whatever it's scummy as it will not improve you as a player.
However goblin gliders, speed potions is very scummy.

As for the classes people play. Yes dexa's fire Mage gear is awful but it's his own call really, but if you have a problem with someone playing Druid fc then you're stupid. It is the best fc and if I saw someone playing an fc rdruid this expac and next expac see them playing a holy paladin ( because it's the best fc ) that is not fotm rolling. That is wanting to fc, and is nothing to be ashamed of.
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My gear isn't terrible, it's the best set for BG's as i rely on a pocket healer yet deal massive damage - Bandages, Neck heal and block + kiting make my fire mage a deadly weapon against any melee, even bm's.
 
Elinos said:
Love you. You have the same point of view of all that that I have too :)

I think that nowadays, getting full BiS became too easy : half are heirlooms, other half is 2 quests and buy at the AH. You up 19 and get geared in, like, 3 hours.

So all these things that might look boring because it's long and doesn't have a huge impact on the game nowadays are seen as not part of twinking. Back in the past, we had to up fishing to get the hat and boots in Strangleronce.

Consumables are part of twinking. If you do not use all the possibilities you have in hands to win, you're not fully playing your twink in my opinion. I don't understand this community saying that, because it's too hard to get, or too expensive, no one should use it. No one should use Shadowfang because it's so expensive on the AH maybe ?

Stop complaining about people using consumables and get these too to play with it aswell. It has nothing to do with a lack of skill. It's just the main purpose of twinking, which is to optimise as much as you can do your character and your game.
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You can't be more right, well said mate.
 
Asterias said:
I mean just by using consumables doesn't make you bad, it means you're scummy.
I've seen great quality players use them and are able to pull off great things WITHOUT RELYING ON THEM.
The problem starts when people are dependant on them and cannot play without them and see them as another spell from their class.
Any bombs, trinkets etc in my opinion isn't scummy. However can be very tilting and I would only use bombs on bm hunter pets and ferals, if you use it on an rDruid fc or whatever it's scummy as it will not improve you as a player.
However goblin gliders, speed potions is very scummy.

As for the classes people play. Yes dexa's fire Mage gear is awful but it's his own call really, but if you have a problem with someone playing Druid fc then you're stupid. It is the best fc and if I saw someone playing an fc rdruid this expac and next expac see them playing a holy paladin ( because it's the best fc ) that is not fotm rolling. That is wanting to fc, and is nothing to be ashamed of.
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Also, you can't rely on consumables, not a single player can be as bad as that. Atleast i think so, my fire mage uses the Mortar for only 1v2's, or vs a fotm. Otherwise i'll just fuck em up anyway. As @Elinos stated, you aren't fully using the ability to twink if you dont pimp your tink to the fullest. You guys in 19's are just people who want an easy lvl 100 experience, not twinking since what you guys do isn't twinking it's just boring low level pvp. The fact that low level pvp is so unpredictable makes it fun, not some boring ass WSG games that are LITERALLY all the same.

Your arguement on people being scummy when using any consumable on anyone is invalid, since consumables are literally 1 of the main things in twinking, this is what makes it awesome. In level 100 you cannot use those juicy ass trinkets that root somoene for 10 seconds, or stun and damage. Or thistle tea or even Flash Bombs, they are all nerfed for 100 to be used specifically for lower level brackets, they are even introducing more twink pots n shit in Legion. You retards just don't get it that if you use consumables or anything that ENHANCES your abilities, you're using the fullest of your character, if you don't and QQ about some1 flash bombing you, well go back to 100 and find your place there.

Twinking is the place to be creative with your own character, not to be afflicted by rules and shit that will ruin this generation's twinking in no time.

Rules aren't what makes your character your twink, it's the creativity and thoughts that will make the character you spent so much time on, really awesome.
 
@DexaQT Even if we have the same opinion, saying others who doesn't are retards and stuff wont make them approve you even if they finally understand what you mean and agrees :eek:
 
First time Quack ever wrote something not-completely-moronic :eek:

Last time I had game time (i.e. could play my rogue) ally used to have like 3-4 somewhat BiS worgen resto druids in most games, making it very hard to ever return flags as a pug'ing rogue (being 20-29 EU horde you'd never have any assistance from your teammates), which resulted in ally winning maybe 70 % of all WSGs around that period. I'll agree consumables doesn't make games more competitive on a general level but in my case then I was often, because of stun grenades and goblin gliders, able to – at least I think so – add more competitiveness to the game by using them.

Well, and mainly: I play this bracket because I want to return flags and kill other players; I really don't care that much about the non-existent community etc.
 
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