Queue times
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Leek
Legend
Wouldn't really matter if enchants are removed lol. I did pretty ok as a f2p anyway.
COME AT ME BLIZZ
Allybeboba
Legend
Cata-Mop Horde in the Americas would have insta pops. Partly due to the amount of people playing Alliance rogues and hunters. There was a HUGE faction imbalance.
My theory is as follows why we do not get pops now for the 20-29 bracket. In 6.x skirmishes were added as well as AV. Many of our players are drawn to anything new like moths to a flame. And just like said moth that same flame will kill it. What has happened people either queue random BGs or queue WSG and AV. In the meantime, while waiting on the longa$$ queue the queue up skirmishes. Guess what, a skirmesh pops if they have random selected. Well, what they do not know while they are in that skirmish with 4 people, is their queues are paused. Thus effectively removing them from the queue. Just imagine if 50% of the players did this or if only 25%? Queue times get longer.
People get frustrated. So they queue skirmishes or leave the bracket for greener pastures. Which make queue times even longer!!! It is a vicious circle.
I even tried to get people to queue for WSG/AB only one Friday night a few weeks ago and the thread got zero traction due to all the toxic posts and threads that buried it.
/cheers
My theory is as follows why we do not get pops now for the 20-29 bracket. In 6.x skirmishes were added as well as AV. Many of our players are drawn to anything new like moths to a flame. And just like said moth that same flame will kill it. What has happened people either queue random BGs or queue WSG and AV. In the meantime, while waiting on the longa$$ queue the queue up skirmishes. Guess what, a skirmesh pops if they have random selected. Well, what they do not know while they are in that skirmish with 4 people, is their queues are paused. Thus effectively removing them from the queue. Just imagine if 50% of the players did this or if only 25%? Queue times get longer.
People get frustrated. So they queue skirmishes or leave the bracket for greener pastures. Which make queue times even longer!!! It is a vicious circle.
I even tried to get people to queue for WSG/AB only one Friday night a few weeks ago and the thread got zero traction due to all the toxic posts and threads that buried it.
/cheers
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Maxfield
Grandfathered
Those Best of threads were ridiculous, I read alot of people want Neon banned for that. And I agree with the entirety of your post. It's almost like Blizz wants to kill this bracket.
LennywBT
SpeeDIO
It is not certain yet, but for pvp they have stated that Enchanting will not count when you enter in PVP, making the gap between f2p/p2p really small. Possibly the F2P era once again--- Cata Improved. But, they may screw things up, so you don't know for sure. Anyway, i do have hopes. I just won't be that hyped. I had hopes and was hyped when WoD was announced only to find out the shit it was...
LennywBT
SpeeDIO
That would be horrible. I wouldn't want to run into Jajas and leveling people, sorry. I am very certain the 19s would disagree on this topic as well.
SPQR
Legend
why? you better off waiting 40 min in q and facing same people over and over again until your face drop on keyboard?
If everything goes down as it is now there be no difference between leveling character and one who locked exp other then skill.
As it happens majority of people wish that the only thing that would separate ppl in pvp aspect of this game would be their skill. Since the only way to be better in pvp is to play against other skilled people (note, not the 29 scums now, that even a monkey can perform well with) - everyone win.
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LennywBT
SpeeDIO
Skill, is the only factor that must count. I play for skill, not to farm the enemy, not to get in-competitive games.
madhombre
Legend
the removal of bg separations would be awesome.
xp off/xp on pugs are both mostly horrible with a small chance of a good game so you wont feel much of a change except faster queue pops ofc (and youll still able to do wargames if you wanna have "competetive" games.
but because blizzard is blizzard they find another reason to not let twinks into xp on bgs, even though enchants are removed and gear scales the same
xp off/xp on pugs are both mostly horrible with a small chance of a good game so you wont feel much of a change except faster queue pops ofc (and youll still able to do wargames if you wanna have "competetive"
games.but because blizzard is blizzard they find another reason to not let twinks into xp on bgs, even though enchants are removed and gear scales the same
SPQR
Legend
Skill can only be determined in a competitive game.
The on / off separation was introduced due to OPness of xp lock ppl agains others.
if on/off ppl does same dmg, i cant see any reason to qq
Pretty much this.xp off/xp on pugs are both mostly horrible with a small chance of a good game so you wont feel much of a change except faster queue pops ofc (and youll still able to do wargames if you wanna have "competetive"
Don't fool yourselves thinking ppl doesn't premade in lvling pugs.
nor does they not twink out their lvling character just to destroy everything.
Experience limitations in pvp is a callback to a past.
pretty much as many other things ingame that should of been fixed long timeago
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LennywBT
SpeeDIO
I cannot have fun when i win every non-competitive bg.
LennywBT
SpeeDIO
There can be leveling noobs that are trying out the game. Without BoAs at all. I don't care about queue times and i don't care if i get quick pops or not, the only thing i care about is getting good games, i cant/dont want to spend 2 hours of playing and getting into non competitiveness. I call that faceroll. It is boring.
Allybeboba
Legend
Correct me if I am wrong because I have not been paying close attention to the 7.x notes. From what I understand, in PvP, gear won't matter at ALL. We will be on equal footing. Which effectively kills twinking. And that we will get some sort of point system to spend on talents or something. Now, whether or not these are only conquest points I do not know. If they are, that could mean HUGE implecations for all brackets. If it only costs honor to gain these "talents", then it is just a matter of grinding them all out.
Either way, we are going to have to just wait it out another six to eight months to know for certain.
Sadly, if this does kill twinking I may actually drop my sub. For twinking and making gold are the only reasons I play WoW any more. I lost interest in raiding long long ago.
/cheers
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Maxfield
Grandfathered
I understand but I said the average player.
madhombre
Legend
xp off/xp on pugs are both mostly horrible with a small chance of a good game so you wont feel much of a change except faster queue pops ofc (and youll still able to do wargames if you wanna have "competetive"
asdf
SPQR
Legend
You forgot that starter edition was meant to be exactly that? and not do be steamrolled by several people as they are right now in this bracket.
You wont bring total balance to anything. if one team wins then other must loose. making the pool bigger however reduces many negative sides.
Allybeboba
Legend
There are lots of good games in XP on 10-19, trust me. Because most of the people in the XP on 10-19 are twinks looking for a ROFLstomp. You will be suprised how good the games are.
/cheers
LennywBT
SpeeDIO
Yes, one loses one wins. But when its, super easy. Its boring.