Another BG, another jump exploit - BAN THIS RIGHT NOW! Thanks

BACKPEDDLE

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Inside the stables barn and interrupting flag caps. Start taking action against exploiters please.


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Have had some complaints about you using Flash Bombs tonight. Aren't you on your final warning? I wouldn't want any SS's to appear.
 
This counts as a strenuous jump for melee to be in range, so is not allowed. Melee shouldn't have to go out of their way. It also allows a disproportionate amount of players to be stuck at a node by 1 healer defending.

Especially given there's no los to cap with someone there. That's what drew the line for me.
 
This counts as a strenuous jump for melee to be in range, so is not allowed. Melee shouldn't have to go out of their way. It also allows a disproportionate amount of players to be stuck at a node by 1 healer defending.

Especially given there's no los to cap with someone there. That's what drew the line for me.

Any jump requires a melee to be in range, wtf.

I'm not gonna stop doing this jump, as Livin won't be banning it in TC since it requires 2 jumps and doesn't provide any LoS.

There is LoS to cap. There's many spots when capping that provides LoS from the player sitting in the stable spot.

Once again you ban a jump while being clueless as to how it works. It's really starting to piss me off.
 
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Any jump requires a melee to be in range, wtf.

I'm not gonna stop doing this jump, as Livin won't be banning it in TC since it requires 2 jumps and doesn't provide any LoS.

Blaze, don't talk on my behalf please. I told you once to stay out of situation with jumps and rules. All i need you to do is let me know and i will bring it up with the team to see if its allowed or not simple.
 
Tunnel roof requires a drop, I kept bottom to ToT in so you had something. This is just camping to prevent caps.

Do it and get kicked, idc at this point. Sick of having to police you to stop being a complete retard in every bg you can find. What frustrates me the most is that you don't seem to give a shit at all about what's best for the community. You have no concept of fair play.

Living can do what he wants as that's his field, this is mine.
 
Blaze, don't talk on my behalf please. I told you once to stay out of situation with jumps and rules. All i need you to do is let me know and i will bring it up with the team to see if its allowed or not simple.

Going through your personal policy of jumps, I'd assume that you'd allow the jump in the TC. But I understand, and I'll do so in the future. ;)

Boostz said:
Tunnel roof requires a drop, I kept bottom to ToT in so you had something. This is just camping to prevent caps.

Do it and get kicked, idc at this point. Sick of having to police you to stop being a complete retard in every bg you can find. What frustrates me the most is that you don't seem to give a shit at all about what's best for the community. You have no concept of fair play.

Living can do what he wants as that's his field, this is mine.

You said yourself:

Boostz said:
Especially given there's no los to cap with someone there. That's what drew the line for me.

and this is untrue. So, what drew the line for you? Since obviously, what drew the line for you previously is untrue.

You hate jumps, I get that. However, a jump requires 2 successive jumps and is actually garbage since it doesn't provide anything but melee distance shouldn't be banned. I only did this jump because it was funny to stop clueless players from capping the flag.
 
Watched your vod. You can stop capping of nodes. You can spam heal yourself and only deal with ranged. It's not a jump for movement, it's a jump to camp like the TP rejuv hut jump.

Please stop promoting camping with jumps. Melee have to do the jump to try and kill you to lead to the capping of the node. No one wants that.

Edit: My personal opinion towards jumps is irrelevent. Even I who is extremely average at jumps could do the TP/This one. I have to look at the community pug side, and what's worth promoting and what indirectly hurts games.

I completely get you're doing it to try and promote more interesting play, to try and 'skill up' the community. But it's not worth it. It doesn't add to the gameplay and annoys almost everyone.

I have to be the bad guy concerning jumps for the community as a whole. If stuff like this is allowed in the TC because Living wants that, awesome, won't hear any complaints from me, even if I end up disagreeing.

But my focus is on the 100 or so people who play pugs.
 
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Watched your vod. You can stop capping of nodes. You can spam heal yourself and only deal with ranged. It's not a jump for movement, it's a jump to camp like the TP rejuv hut jump.

Please stop promoting camping with jumps. Melee have to do the jump to try and kill you to lead to the capping of the node. No one wants that.

You can stop capping of nodes by clueless players. There's plenty of spots where you're LoS'ing the player in stables while capping.

Melee distance shouldn't be a reason to ban. Again, it's 2 jumps.

And again, i ask you:

What drew the line?
 
This jump is banned due to complaints? Why do you keep changing your reason? Rofl
 
This jump is banned due to complaints? Why do you keep changing your reason? Rofl

I told you my reason was for unfairly camping stalling gameplay for no benefit. This is the same issue as the TP jump. I'm really not going to repeat myself with that argument. We've been over this.

Please. TC whatever Living allows you, go nuts. Not in pugs.

You're making my job so much harder for absolutely no good reason.
 
I told you my reason was for unfairly camping stalling gameplay for no benefit. This is the same issue as the TP jump. I'm really not going to repeat myself with that argument. We've been over this.

Please. TC whatever Living allows you, go nuts. Not in pugs.

You're making my job so much harder for absolutely no good reason.

You're ignoring all I just said, haha

The jump doesn't allow anyone to stall games. The node is easily capped, as there is multiple spots that provide LoS from the player in the stables. So camping is an invalid reason to ban this jump.

I feel like you're just trying to grasp whatever reason you can find.
 
How about "it's literally an exploit"

Literally exploiting the game
 
It's not allowed. I'm not discussing this with you any further. I can't promote this kind of play. The node is not easily capped. You can stall because you are out of range of melee and you are a healer. You are the only one doing it.

It sticks.

Deal with it or don't. I'm sick of arguing with you over stupid shit because you can't grasp a basic understanding of fairness.

Left home for a job thing, AB pops, people were happy.

Get job. Awesome. My 39 shirt that yoube sent is in the mail. Fuck yeah.

Come home, oh hey mvp is abusing jumps and telling people to queue wsg. Have to deal with this, again.

I'm so fucking tired of dealing with it. Dealing with you, having to explain this as basically I can and still get a 'why you no allow jumps in pugs'.

Edit: derp.
 
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It's now allowed. I'm not discussing this with you any further. I can't promote this kind of play. The node is not easily capped. You can stall because you are out of range of melee and you are a healer. You are the only one doing it.

It sticks.

Deal with it or don't. I'm sick of arguing with you over stupid shit because you can't grasp a basic understanding of fairness.

How is it possible to stall a game when you are not in a position to stop people from capping?
I won't deal with it unless you give me a valid reason as to why it should be banned. In my eyes the jump is fair, as it only requires 2 successive jumps to complete, and doesn't provide any unfair advantage other than melee distance which is classified as movement, which you said in a previous post is fair.

To quote you on it:
boostz said:
It's not a jump for movement, it's a jump to camp like the TP rejuv hut jump.

Don't tell me I don't understand fairness. I can walk in the walls and be unkillable if I want to, but I don't because it's not fair.

I'm not telling people to queue WSG, what the fuck are you saying
 

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