Full defias for 19 hunter?

No not really. You need some crit as a hunter.

I don't really believe this statement is true, for the fact that you gain crit from bracers, boots, gun, and helm.

A lot of hunters drop two boa pieces to run full defias because it is a very hard hitting set. I'd say definitely give it a run and see how you feel, there's a few players in the bracket that already run full defias hunters.
 
Full defias is BiS for AP stacking afaik
 
I know quite a few hunters are doing the full ap route right now especially how rogues are pretty much doing full AP. Hunters probably should have a full AP set to switch to if they do not always rock it as it's probably best.


Personally, since I never group queue, I'd rather use a set that has some more survivability and crit than pure AP. I know chances are most of the time I'm going to be on my own and I just have a completely different mindset since this is my first time playing hunter since Cata and that was the first time that I had played hunter since early TBC.


I play my hunter more for the support role than any really viable damage besides the explosive + arcane burst every once in a while. I have my EFC location macros handy and my job 99% of the time is just to lay some Concs on EFC as soon as he leaves our base. That's about it. Mid fight I find myself keeping my pet by my side and bursting down 1 target every once in a while.


Personally as survival if I'm dpsing something down, I'd rather see more crits since hunters have quite quick attack speed when considering our constant damage + special damage + pet damage so I'd rather see some chunkier crit strings because those crits can stack rather rapidly. It's personal preference for sure though as the increased damage from ap stacking also adds up.


I personally feel as though if I were BM I'd probably be looking for pure AP for those big kill commands.



TLDR For max AP, I'd say rock it if you would like. I usually use a set with more survivability since my priorities are usually CCing and scouting solo as opposed to ranking highly on the damage charts, and I never group queue so I never really expect to get any heals.
 
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With glove reinforcements and blackwolf bracers with 5stam + boa neck/cloak the full defias set isn't bad at all. Plus you can swap stuff out and still hit full ap. I haven't noticed much different other than some arcane resists (even resisted a poly)

running these glass cannon hunter sets are really not worth outside of playing hunter in mid
 
Full defias bis for old school twinks mathematically, or thralls and gloom bis for new hunters.
 
Do it; defias is bis for AP, and make another set for more of a balance set :)
 
i actually found out max Agility BIS is not full defias.

its:


chest-belt-boots-gloves-legs

westfall-defias-lynx-fang-defias

Agility:
10+6+7+6+7
36

Stamina:
5+4+5+4+7
25
 
i actually found out max Agility BIS is not full defias.

its:


chest-belt-boots-gloves-legs

westfall-defias-lynx-fang-defias

Agility:
10+6+7+6+7
36

Stamina:
5+4+5+4+7
25

u forgotten to had 5 agi set bonus?
 
I didnt forgot the +5 , but even with +5 Set Bonus Defias has 35Agility.

My shown set has +36 Agility.

Also the Tunic of Westfall (+10 Agility , + 5 Stamina) is also GF'd. -> "Swag"

So yeah, it actually just has more Agility.
 
i actually found out max Agility BIS is not full defias.

its:


chest-belt-boots-gloves-legs

westfall-defias-lynx-fang-defias

Agility:
10+6+7+6+7
36

Stamina:
5+4+5+4+7
25

I didnt forgot the +5 , but even with +5 Set Bonus Defias has 35Agility.

My shown set has +36 Agility.

Also the Tunic of Westfall (+10 Agility , + 5 Stamina) is also GF'd. -> "Swag"

So yeah, it actually just has more Agility.
I hope you took scaling into account as well..
 
This is without scaling, since first scaling is not all time active.

Second there is no Data avaiable for Tunic of Westfall, anyways, i will test it later and give a feedback. My set also features the common items (2defias,lynx and Gloves of Fang) which are basically BiS Standards.
 
This is without scaling, since first scaling is not all time active.

Second there is no Data avaiable for Tunic of Westfall, anyways, i will test it later and give a feedback. My set also features the common items (2defias,lynx and Gloves of Fang) which are basically BiS Standards.
Full defias is BiS after scaling afaik, and really scaled stats are all that matter. Unless the only only thing you do is dueling.
 
I hope you took scaling into account as well..


Okay seems like Tunic doesnt Scale....

So in BG's u have this Data:
#############
defias:
chest-belt-boots-gloves-legs

8+7+7+5+8+(5 Bonus) = 40 Agility

8+5+5+7+8 = 33 Stamina


################
Mine
chest-belt-boots-gloves-legs

westfall-defias-defias-fang-defias

Agility:
10+7+7+7+8 = 39 Agility

Stamina:
5+5+5+5+8 = 28 Stamina
##############


but outside its max. AGility BiS
!
 
Agntsliq @ Bleeding Hollow - Community - World of Warcraft (Bis offensive set that gives you highest amount of AP with scaling and allows you to stay within the mid 20s% of crit which is ideal for any dps class for consistent crits imo, however going more glass cannon typically forces you to play more defensively and go in and out for pokes as well as increasing the mortality rate in 1vX or no heal/stealthie opener situations.)

Agntgrizzle @ Bleeding Hollow - Community - World of Warcraft (Bis defensive set that has substantially less AP then the set above, but instead trades for a huge stamina boost and a convenient increase in crit chance, which gives a person the ability to play a more mongo playstyle as well as reducing the chance of dying in the scenarios stated above.)

Both sets are based on preference of playstyle definitely, but I believe every hunter should have both in posession to use and(or) swap mid game depending on the situation at hand.
 

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