Consider the future.

[Allybeboba]

The "hard" way would be to pull those britches up and stop crying like little girls all the time about the smallest thing.
At any rate, this future development is 9-14 months away. Start planning your rare spawning routes now and getting your level 100 enchanter warlock friends prepared! Or... Just gather up twenty quarters in the meantime and be done with it. The choice is yours.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

 

[Snack]

The "hard" way would be to pull those britches up and stop crying like little girls all the time about the smallest thing.
At any rate, this future development is 9-14 months away. Start planning your rare spawning routes now and getting your level 100 enchanter warlock friends prepared! Or... Just gather up twenty quarters in the meantime and be done with it. The choice is yours.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

Who is crying in this thread?

And you are dumb as a brick. Before vet people didn't want to pay 13€ a month, either because they couldn't afford as they weren't family dads with stable incomes or because they didn't want to pay for a game they could enjoy for free.

After ver became available many subbed for 1 month to get all gear, enchants etc, and then went back to f2p. But some poeple stayed f2p, because it provides a much bugger challenge than p2p; you had to farm for months to get the gear you couldn't just buy of AH. Some people likes this challenge, and I am not the one to judge wether it's a waste of time compared to the hours they could spend on earning those €€ each month, and neither are you. People mostly play f2p for the challenge and if you cba to read these threads then gtfo.

 

[Allybeboba]

Ah yes, can't stay away from the personal attacks.
Nowhere in that quote did it state "in this thread".
Where did you see anywhere in post #29 that I was "judging" anyone? If anything it is you that is doing the judging. I suggest that you take a few deep breaths and calm down a bit before your next post.
I am glad you mentioned Vet. Vets have access to the enchants we are speaking. In fact, better enchants. They have no need to go to Dreanor for enchants.
Oh, and proofread too, it really puts you in a better light amongst your peers.
Have a wonderful day.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

 

[Baumbart]

Ah yes, can't stay away from the personal attacks.
Nowhere in that quote did it state "in this thread".
Where did you see anywhere in post #29 that I was "judging" anyone? If anything it is you that is doing the judging. I suggest that you take a few deep breaths and calm down a bit before your next post.
I am glad you mentioned Vet. Vets have access to the enchants we are speaking. In fact, better enchants. They have no need to go to Dreanor for enchants.
Oh, and proofread too, it really puts you in a better light amongst your peers.
Have a wonderful day.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

Who cares what vets can or cannot get, that's not what this thread is about. You came here, gave wrong information and you were corrected. Get over it.

 

[Malanior]

Cool off, guys
Do you really think that since it's a npc enchanter giving you item enhancements, that spell is not p2p restricted?

lulz

ps) mats are not an issue, just take enchanting and start gathering them by hunting blingtron5000 daily right now. Once WoD content will be available to f2p I'll /laugh you all ^^

If you want vet stuff, go vet

 

[fatbellyzz]

This thread... Where's kincaide when you need him

 

[artonkn]

Cool off, guys
Do you really think that since it's a npc enchanter giving you item enhancements, that spell is not p2p restricted?

lulz

ps) mats are not an issue, just take enchanting and start gathering them by hunting blingtron5000 daily right now. Once WoD content will be available to f2p I'll /laugh you all ^^

If you want vet stuff, go vet

We're already /laugh -ing at you for staying F2P though.

 

[Kincaide]

This thread... Where's kincaide when you need him

Always watching... always listening... it's kind of creepy actually...

 

[Allybeboba]

Not quite sure what wrong information I have provided thus far.
I have pointed you in the direction on Garrison guides. Vets can get better enchants and mats off of the AH, as can starters if they choose that route. There is no reason for them to go to Dreanor for enchants unless they happen to get them BoT.
Now, if someone has a video of a level 20 veteran or starter getting a kill on a level 100 rare and getting a luminous shard from it they can post it. And I will be flattered that you took precious time out of your day just for me. Until then it is speculation, not fact. I have posted facts, not theories.
Have a good day.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

 

[Allybeboba]

Cool off, guys
Do you really think that since it's a npc enchanter giving you item enhancements, that spell is not p2p restricted?

lulz

ps) mats are not an issue, just take enchanting and start gathering them by hunting blingtron5000 daily right now. Once WoD content will be available to f2p I'll /laugh you all ^^

If you want vet stuff, go vet

Laugh all you like. As I stated before this is probably 9-12 months down the road, maybe more( Summer of 2016). You should have plenty saved up by then. Who knows what kind of changes to Garrisons would have been made by then. We getting ready to get a shipyard!

/cheers
Sweetsidney

 

[Snack]

I really can't see an advantage of being able to get to Dreanor. There is nothing there for a level 20 other than a few achievements and maybe, maybe something that might drop.

Except cool illusions and enchants?

^You were corrected

Will not have access to the materials to get the enchants.
And there is a long quest chain to gain access to Dreanor and to have your own Garrison.

You don't need your own garrison, you can visit a friend's garrison and use an enchanting hut there.

You get mats by rolling DE. It will take a while, but it's doable.

^Corrected again

Simply because you have access to an enchanting building and have a lvl 100 help you kill some mobs does not mean that your level 20 will get a luminous shard when and if you happen to get a blue item to drop.
You need luminous shards to have access to bottom tier enchants.

Get a warlock to summon you, hunt the rares that on first kill drop blues, have a high lvl enchanter in group = profit

^Corrected or guided towards an answer

Ah yes, can't stay away from the personal attacks.

So this isn't a personal attack?:

stop crying like little girls

Nowhere in that quote did it state "in this thread"

Applies to the f2p forum section in general as well, if you don't like seing f2p's discussing their options for improving their twinks, don't got there? I personally don't see most of the threads as people "crying like little girls"

Where did you see anywhere in post #29 that I was "judging" anyone?

I guess judging wasn't the right word to use. You are completely misunderstanding what f2p twinking is about. For instance here:

Or... Just gather up twenty quarters in the meantime and be done with it. The choice is yours.

Oh, and proofread too, it really puts you in a better light amongst your peers.

Not everyone have english as their 1st language

Not quite sure what wrong information I have provided thus far.

Let me show you:

Will not have access to the materials to get the enchants.

There is nothing there for a level 20 other than a few achievements and maybe, maybe something that might drop.

I have posted facts

Some of them wrong though, as you can see above.

Laugh all you like. As I stated before this is probably 9-12 months down the road, maybe more( Summer of 2016). You should have plenty saved up by then. Who knows what kind of changes to Garrisons would have been made by then. We getting ready to get a shipyard!

/cheers
Sweetsidney

This is somewhat correct
/cheers

 

[Kincaide]

Sigh, I've had to delete a lot of posts in this thread. Please do the following two things:

1) Keep your posts about the topic at hand, and not about the person you're debating with
2) Please do not make this a Starter vs Veteran argument; respect other people's choices and don't respond to a speculative Starter thread by saying "Go Vet". I shouldn't have to keep saying this.

 

[Allybeboba]

^You were corrected
^Corrected again
^Corrected or guided towards an answer
So this isn't a personal attack?:
Applies to the f2p forum section in general as well, if you don't like seing f2p's discussing their options for improving their twinks, don't got there? I personally don't see most of the threads as people "crying like little girls"
I guess judging wasn't the right word to use. You are completely misunderstanding what f2p twinking is about. For instance here:
Not everyone have english as their 1st language
Let me show you:

Some of them wrong though, as you can see above.
This is somewhat correct
/cheers

/blush You flatter me by going to all the trouble to copy/paste all those quotes. I am sure others would relish the attention have poured upon me.

As I have stated, all of what you have said is based on speculation and conjecture. Unless you can predict the future you have no idea how enchanting or WoD will work for Starter accounts in 2016.
I know exactly what it is like to be a trial, I have a trial account. And I play at lvl 20.
Proofreading what you have written has nothing to do with your language skill set. It has everything to with your work ethic.
I will lay it out, even though I have pointed to a guide twice in this thread. You do not get crystals from blue items. You can get a shard on a blue on occasion, maybe if the ilvl is high enough. The Garrison does not offer gift enchants for rings until lvl 2 and gifts for cloaks and necks at lvl 3. Breath enchants require shards and gifts require crystals and elements. Starters can get crystals now from the blingtron5000. I do not know we will get the elements from, even if they are obtainable. We cannot get shards now. Perhaps in Q2 or Q3 of 2016 we can. But not now. You might start booking appointments with your level 100 warlock enchanter that has a level 3 enchanting building now.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

 

[Hashbrowns]

The garrison just gives enchant illusion correct? There's not a seperate item illusion then tmog right?

 

[Crystalpall]

"With a level 1 building, you can craft Breath enchants for rings ( Enchant Ring - Breath of Critical Strike, Enchant Ring - Breath of Mastery, Enchant Ring - Breath of Multistrike, Enchant Ring - Breath of Haste, Enchant Ring - Breath of Versatility), Luminous Shard, Enchanted Dust, Enchant Weapon - Mark of the Shattered Hand.
With a level 2 building, you can craft Breath enchants for cloaks and necks, as well as Gift enchants for rings: Breath of Critical Strike, Breath of Haste, Breath of Mastery, Breath of Multistrike, Breath of Versatility, Breath of Critical Strike, Breath of Haste, Breath of Mastery, Breath of Multistrike, Breath of Versatility, Gift of Critical Strike, Gift of Haste, Gift of Mastery, Gift of Multistrike, Gift of Versatility
With a level 3 building, you can Gift enchants for cloaks and necks: Gift of Critical Strike, Gift of Haste, Gift of Mastery, Gift of Multistrike, Gift of Versatility, Gift of Critical Strike, Gift of Haste, Gift of Mastery, Gift of Multistrike, Gift of Versatility"

Guide to the Garrison Enchanter's Study - Guides - Wowhead

I hope I understood it correct

 

[Allybeboba]

Yes, as I stated above. Lvl 2=gift rings, lvl 3= gift cloak and neck. Gifts require crystals and elements. As of right now, I do not believe there is a way for a starter to obtain sorcerous elements. So, starters can not obtain the materials needed for BiS. At any rate, starters cannot even get to Dreanor right now. This discussion is moot.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

 

[Crystalpall]

Yes, as I stated above. Lvl 2=gift rings, lvl 3= gift cloak and neck. Gifts require crystals and elements. As of right now, I do not believe there is a way for a starter to obtain sorcerous elements. So, starters can not obtain the materials needed for BiS. At any rate, starters cannot even get to Dreanor right now. This discussion is moot.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

yes, right now that's why the thread is called "Consider the future ".

As for sorcerous items:

Primal Spirit - Item - World of Warcraft drops from rares all over Draenor. 25 of those can be traded for a primal fire, air, water or earth.

This discussion is not moot, you just want it to stop because it's not convenient for you or from whatever reason.

edit: if not from rares, you can get spirits from a quartermaster for 200 honor: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=86175/bregg-coppercast

 

[Goesid]

Yes, as I stated above. Lvl 2=gift rings, lvl 3= gift cloak and neck. Gifts require crystals and elements. As of right now, I do not believe there is a way for a starter to obtain sorcerous elements. So, starters can not obtain the materials needed for BiS. At any rate, starters cannot even get to Dreanor right now. This discussion is moot.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

You can herb all herbs at any level, herbs give Primal Spirit, Primal Spirits buys Sorcerous stuff.

 

[Crystalpall]

What's more you can get Fractured Temporal Crystal - Item - World of Warcraft from Blingtron's assuming you have enchanting and then convert 10 of them into Fractured Temporal Crystal - Item - World of Warcraft and use that to create Mark of the Shattered Hand enchant (level 1 enchanting hut required, like other enchants mentioned)

Mark of the Shattered Hand

"Permanently enchants a melee weapon to sometimes bleed your enemy for 18 damage, plus an additional 54 damage over 6 sec." (scaled for 20)
"Permanently enchants a melee weapon to sometimes bleed your enemy for 34 damage, plus an additional 102 damage over 6 sec." (scaled for 29, in bgs)

 

[Agnostic]

/blush You flatter me by going to all the trouble to copy/paste all those quotes. I am sure others would relish the attention have poured upon me.

As I have stated, all of what you have said is based on speculation and conjecture. Unless you can predict the future you have no idea how enchanting or WoD will work for Starter accounts in 2016.
I know exactly what it is like to be a trial, I have a trial account. And I play at lvl 20.
Proofreading what you have written has nothing to do with your language skill set. It has everything to with your work ethic.
I will lay it out, even though I have pointed to a guide twice in this thread. You do not get crystals from blue items. You can get a shard on a blue on occasion, maybe if the ilvl is high enough. The Garrison does not offer gift enchants for rings until lvl 2 and gifts for cloaks and necks at lvl 3. Breath enchants require shards and gifts require crystals and elements. Starters can get crystals now from the blingtron5000. I do not know we will get the elements from, even if they are obtainable. We cannot get shards now. Perhaps in Q2 or Q3 of 2016 we can. But not now. You might start booking appointments with your level 100 warlock enchanter that has a level 3 enchanting building now.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

It doesn't hurt to be optimistic and speculate. Not as many people would have gotten what we have if it weren't for preparation.