organised 19 queing

melaked

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hi just melaked here just putting forward an idea of mine can we just please when we have more than 10 people who can talk to each other can we just organize a proper game as people keep saying "oh the 19 bracket is shit atm" its shit because of the 6 rogues all queuing on ally at once or the 5 healers on horde i guarantee horde have at least 5 healers active who can easily change to a dps, but they dare not to as we arn't certain that we will get in the exact same groups than everyone else and we can the random outland twinks "no disrespect" to them but when we try and lead them to TI to improve their knowledge of the game and make them a better twink all we get is abuse. so to eliminate the chance of them joining games IMO we should make 2 5 man groups and sync q so we can get nice organized bgs not some mid push into a 15 min gy farm we can get "old school" games going to try and encourage the idea of teamwork and the idea of a fc per team and the idea of a stable team not 4 retarded rogues who quad ambush, i know for a fact from speaking to hardbass daily the lack of hunters who know to peel of and stop fcs steam training through mid and from my point of view from a healer/fc when are fc has a hunter on his back its one of the worst things what can happen and can in fact tear a mid fight apart and can win games so can we just please bring back the organization back to the bracket we don't need a president that's just another way to give someone more of an ego they don't deserve we just maturity in the bracket we all know and love.

thanks for reading.

many thanks.

Ben Fucking Tilley.
 
but the problem is that people arnt queuing because we're getting games thew because of retards with no gear everyday it is getting like the 20 bracket
 
Make a guild and play wargames. You have a good example that it works from GSC. Forcing people out in a pug environmet.. are you even serious??

There are some people who wanted to stop people like me from playing 20-24 p2p and then you have a brilliant idea to kick me right back into that?
 
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leotseddap said:
Make a guild and play wargames. You have a good example that it works from GSC. Forcing people out in a pug environmet.. are you even serious??

There are some people who wanted to stop people like me from playing 20-24 p2p and then you have a brilliant idea to kick me right back into that?
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most 19 pugs are of 24 wargame quality
 
Beefcurtainz said:
most 19 pugs are of 24 wargame quality
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And what is your point? Melake wants change but that is never gonna work for pugging unless he is going to play wargames or 5+5v5+5 sync queue which aint good for this bracket in it's growing stages.

In a week time I helped 6 people already make 19s and I fixed some more of my own 19s up. You don't want to place us outside the lines or would you? Please don't tell me I've done all of this for nothing because ben funkin tilley wants elitist games.
 
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leotseddap said:
And what is your point? Melake wants change but that is never gonna work for pugging unless he is going to play wargames or 5+5v5+5 sync queue which aint good for this bracket in it's growing stages.

In a week time I helped 6 people already make 19s and I fixed some more of my own 19s up. You don't want to place us outside the lines or would you? Please don't tell me I've done all of this for nothing because ben funkin tilley wants elitist games.
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sorry.
 
leotseddap said:
And what is your point? Melake wants change but that is never gonna work for pugging unless he is going to play wargames or 5+5v5+5 sync queue which aint good for this bracket in it's growing stages.

In a week time I helped 6 people already make 19s and I fixed some more of my own 19s up. You don't want to place us outside the lines or would you? Please don't tell me I've done all of this for nothing because ben funkin tilley wants elitist games.
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If you and your friends aren't part of the 1000 health heroes, why do you feel so offended?
 
If you want to keep the bracket alive you need to make it open for everyone. Of course games suck sometimes due to all those randoms that either dont know how to play or dont have any gear. But we need those people. So all we can do is to help them as much as we can to make them better. Showing them what gear they need or what class they can roll etc.

But I also do agree that we need more competetive games to keep everyone interested. Maybe weekly 10vs10 wargames before or after pugs or something...
 
Jva said:
But I also do agree that we need more competetive games to keep everyone interested. Maybe weekly 10vs10 wargames before or after pugs or something...
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I support this, but this bracket probably doesn't consist of 20 players willing to play with fair comps and rules.
 
may i say when did i even put the idea of the elitist games anyone can join them we just block out the retards like the amazing 1k health warriors picking flags and winning games or we have structure to the games and make like mini premades and i am all up for helping people just not people who wont improve and will be destructive to the bracket like the 1k health aggramar pala who said and i quote "FUCKIN NOOB IM GOOD U BAD FACK YOU" these are the sort of people who shouldn't be in the bracket but we cant help it so the only thing we can do is make it a organized bracket not a 24/7 bracket like the 20-24 but a organized bracket were once in a while we can log and re live the memories no learn to hate it like if we lose a game or the sides are a bit lob sided we can log to suite and take the hate out of the bracket and make it respectable stop the speed potting and you say growing stages the bracket wont grow for its own good imo it shouldn't grow it should be played for the fun of it and not the 24/7 pops and 95% of them being complete dogshit like it is not we normally get 2-3 good games and thats great but the active people like myself get to witness the other 20-25 games where we are being gy farmed by the 6 rogues 3 hunters and a Rdruid popping drums or by the speed potting 12 year old ruining a well played game
 
I think what Ben wants to do is to make teams more fair due to the fact that some games you play 5 healers and a Fc vs. a team of 7 rogues. I do think we should get people to queue at key time during the day etc. But making Pre-made teams would cause the bracket to go into decline, But he does have a point with the 7 rogues vs. 5 healer games which are quite stupid tbh
 
_Arkant_ said:
If you and your friends aren't part of the 1000 health heroes, why do you feel so offended?
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Because I am a pugger, a solo player not a premader (doesn't mean I'm not a team player) and wouldn't be able to get into any games if people would go and play organized 5+5vs5+5 or guild wargames.

Hurrx said:
I support this, but this bracket probably doesn't consist of 20 players willing to play with fair comps and rules.
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This should be an automatic thing for this community to keep it all going but it aint going to happen with the people in this community. They don't want fair gameplay like the Op; when it gets hot he starts to terrain exploit like many of this 19s community would do. It has always been like this and atleast for me one of the reason why I started to play other brackets instead of 19s.
 
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leotseddap said:
This should be an automatic thing for this community to keep it all going but it aint going to happen with the people in this community. They don't want fair gameplay like the Op; when it gets hot he starts to terrain exploit like many of this 19s community would do. It has always been like this and atleast for me one of the reason why I started to play other breackets instead of 19s.
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In what bracket do players want fair gameplay?
 
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