Why Premade?

[hairy]

People premade because it is hard to get stuff done when the other teams are filled with multiple 24s, or 70% hunter/rogue. It is rare to not see a team with either of the above comp, and often they are combined. 97% f2p premades are to NOT get facerolled and to play with their friends, and that is guaranteed.

never ending horde 24 infestation.

So so dumb. Do you ever stop and take a look around when you play your bgs?

 

[sevenslacks7]

I have flat out stopped 'puging'. The only times I queue any more is when Bôp, Odb, or someone else on Mok'nathal is online.

Do I do this because I am

not good enough to play alone

I suppose yes and no. At a certain point there is only so much change you can affect upon a battleground as one person (especially as a warrior). Premading, for me at least, is a way to counter other f2p premades that I may run in to, to have a more competitive game (Which has been happening, and will be happening alot more now thanks to Cheesetoast). And for me at least, the premades consist normally of 2-3 f2p's (including me); so if Joe F2P ran into our premade, and found one other person out of the other 9 in his group that would play objectively, they would have a good shot at countering us.

Just go do wargames or wpvp or SOMETHING

Oh, but we do! Majority of the time I would rather wargame than do battlegrounds, but wargames don't happen all of the time. If skirmishes get re installed, I can tell you right now, I will rarely be doing battlegrounds, I will be doing skirmishes because I enjoy competition.



TLDR?
I would find it hard to believe, that any pug battleground would be anywhere near as competitive or fun (to me at least) as a f2p premade vs f2p premade battleground.

 

[CripzBlood]

One of the greatest social sins, that inhibits clear communication and understanding between people, is the presumption of another person's intent. One should always, and on an individual basis rather than a group basis, ask what another person's intent is, rather than claiming to know the intent. Doing the latter forces the other person into the role of defending themselves against an unfounded presumption/accusation, which invites a confrontational tone that was never necessary.

To wit: I premade as often as I can, and my reasons for doing so have nothing to do with the reasons you stated e.g. needing to premade in order to keep up, nor wanting to premade in order to faceroll, etc. I premade because, as has been stated, it is fun to be with people, and to work together towards any goal. Making blanket statements and presuming guilt only inhibit honest discourse, and it's one of my very few yet quite strong pet peeves.

Please try to have a little more faith in the world. Not everything that people do "means something" in a grand scheme. Occam's Razor. I know this whole thread was just one big troll, but since you were giving the thread validity I felt I had to respond in kind.

As an aside, if I were a moderator I would give infractions and bans to accounts like the OP who clearly are only posting to troll and stir up trouble.

u have said u play hunter to counter 24s, i suppose u solo queue, sometimes ur teams are awfull(or enemy teams are great) and u decide to premade to have more competitive games, there is nothing wrong with admiting u premade to keep up with enemy team.

maybe this is just me

 

[Sharpé Nouveau]

Most premades are agonizingly bad and make little difference to the outcome of a game, I wouldn't worry about it.
lol@hyjal

 

[inoobupro]

only scum runs 5 man premades

but this is an MMO not an I game.....2 sides to every story

 

[Atsuro]

I played since 2011 and i've always pugged. I think i've done premades 3 times in total.

 

[Voc]

It's simple, would you rather bg with a bunch of jajas/scrub enchant crutching 24s instead of f2ps with the skill and desire to win ?
If yes, then you are a baddie and you don't belong in the f2p twink wurld. Go make a 24 and cry more when f2ps outskill you with positioning,coordination, and correct use of abilities and cc.

 

[Kincaide]

u have said u play hunter to counter 24s, i suppose u solo queue, sometimes ur teams are awfull(or enemy teams are great) and u decide to premade to have more competitive games, there is nothing wrong with admiting u premade to keep up with enemy team.

maybe this is just me

This was quoted to my post, but I never said the above, so I'm guessing you meant to quote a different post?

 

[LennywBT]

WE DO PREMADES BEAUSE WE GOT FRIENDS/ IF we are against a lv 24 group a PREMADE WOULD BE AWESOMEEEEE ! ! !

 

[Taylondor]

We premades to show 24's that we will not bow down to then just because they
have more enchants or higher lvl than us f2p's

We premade to show them that a skilled f2p premades can beat 24's in bg's

f2p premades will show them the meaning of Bg's in 20-24 bracket

f2p premade will prevail!

 

[Lil]

One of the greatest social sins, that inhibits clear communication and understanding between people, is the presumption of another person's intent. One should always, and on an individual basis rather than a group basis, ask what another person's intent is, rather than claiming to know the intent. Doing the latter forces the other person into the role of defending themselves against an unfounded presumption/accusation, which invites a confrontational tone that was never necessary.

To wit: I premade as often as I can, and my reasons for doing so have nothing to do with the reasons you stated e.g. needing to premade in order to keep up, nor wanting to premade in order to faceroll, etc. I premade because, as has been stated, it is fun to be with people, and to work together towards any goal. Making blanket statements and presuming guilt only inhibit honest discourse, and it's one of my very few yet quite strong pet peeves.

Please try to have a little more faith in the world. Not everything that people do "means something" in a grand scheme. Occam's Razor. I know this whole thread was just one big troll, but since you were giving the thread validity I felt I had to respond in kind.

My post wasn't to you then. If you honestly think everyone has the same intention as you when they premade then I don't believe you've seen many premades. Not going to name names but why possibly would someone do a 3 man premade then afk immediately after the first mid fight? (they were in a bg 10 minutes later on another toon so it wasn't that on I had to go kinda thing) Wasn't hunter infested, wasn't 24 infested, was a very fun balanced game in the end. Because they were simply looking for an easy win. Their 2 friends they premaded with even stayed in the bg.

Why would someone make a 5 person hunter premade with scrolls and every buff in the book when they could simply pug with those kind of buffs and still get a easy bg? Yes they are playing with friends but they are simply doing so to faceroll.

Why would you possibly premade with 4 24s as a f2p then gy farm when you clearly have f2p friends that could make a good match? Sure they are playing with friends and having their fun but are they not intentionally making the games faceroll while doing so? My point like I even stated wasn't towards the person who rarely premade or premades to counter the horde 24 facerolls or doesn't have ridiculously OP comps game after game (one game of 3 heals and a hunt is understandable.. May have been only people on but game after game of this comp is intentional). These kind of premades are the ones I was talking about.

However. you say you constantly premade which I assume you mean on ally. Do you not quickly 3 cap majority of the time? Do you not make games unfair for the horde majority of the time? Do you not have faceroll majority of the times, unintentional or not? It may not be your reason behind doing premades but if you get boring easy bgs constantly and you still choose to do them game after game then imo you are accepting the fact that when you premade you faceroll. Idk if it was you or rhae before but I had this same argument with one of you before in some thread. I don't remember what I said but in the end one of you said you could see where I'm coming from and agree sorta

 

[Stamm]

I'd like to point out 2 things:

1: OP hasn't posted again in this thread once
2: in the current state of the bracket, it doesn't really matter if you premade or not as long as you run a reasonable comp less than or equal to a 5 man. That means 5 less jaja's or 5 less 24's. It increases the density of competitive players.

 

[CripzBlood]

This was quoted to my post, but I never said the above, so I'm guessing you meant to quote a different post?

I premade as often as I can, and my reasons for doing so have nothing to do with the reasons you stated e.g. needing to premade in order to keep up, nor wanting to premade in order to faceroll, etc.

???

 

[potatoez]

Premading is the smallest of the problems of this bracket. This bracket is dead and the foul stench of its decomposing body is so disgusting that few adequate players manage to linger on. This bracket is not worth it, just move on with your lives.

 

[Shft]

 

[Voidwalker]

Don't see why premades should be frowned upon.

Back in the day, f2ps who had skill and were well-geared would join together and premade because they were tired of getting into pugs with undergeared players. Of course, this was in Cataclysm, when there were less 24s and your biggest problems were hunters (generally speaking).

Now a days, anyone joins a premade, and I've noticed that most of the f2ps that join a premade do it simply to get better gear, and are not very well geared themselves.
From these observations, I don't think you should be worried about f2p premades, but 24s who premade.


TL;DR
F2p premades are crap, worry about 24s you filthy animal.

 

[CripzBlood]

Premading is the smallest of the problems of this bracket. This bracket is dead and the foul stench of its decomposing body is so disgusting that few adequate players manage to linger on. This bracket is not worth it, just move on with your lives.

god, thats an schocking point of view.

 

[hairy]

Facerolling and playing the upper hand is a SIN! No one should ever do this! Now please excuse your highness while I log onto my hunter....

 

[potatoez]

god, thats an schocking point of view.

jajajajaja

 

[billymáys]

In every warsong match its the cap score that counts - premading (in my experience on TN) means everyone is playing to win, not to top scoreboards. Nobody wants to let the side down ultimately whether premading or pugging but while pugging, random players view a loss as just x amount of time to the next bg. They can run aimlessly around mid again and hope some 24s turn up and/or get carried by a premading group. After all it's only a game, it's not the end of the world if you lose! But I'll rage in chat first!