hey

[clarification]

From my understanding the argument here was if f2p hunters global everything they look at, or not.

 

[Zehj]

From my understanding the argument here was if f2p hunters global everything they look at, or not.

poorly understood then

clearly they don't global everything they look at, but relative to other classes their capacity to do so is greater

 

[clarification]

poorly understood then

clearly they don't global everything they look at, but relative to other classes their capacity to do so is greater

Tell me then why EU hunters just destroy everything in their sight, even back in 5.3 ?

Who understood poorly?

 

[Zehj]

Who understood poorly?

constructing arguments around exaggerations is always fruitful

 

[clarification]

constructing arguments around exaggerations is always fruitful

Except the person's entire point was that hunters global everything.

 

[Kiri]

Who understood poorly?

Can't tell the difference between exaggeration and facts?

 

[clarification]

Can't tell the difference between exaggeration and facts?
Did you ever get those refunds from your schools?

Don't base your entire argument on exaggerations if you don't want to get called out on it.

And apparently you still cannot have a discussion without insults.

 

[Zehj]

Except the person's entire point was that hunters global everything.

The points he made were against this post

The thing is, F2P hunters in arenas aren't really that dangerous. They require skill more towards their cap to effectively secure kills. Being damage turrets isn't enough.

The same thing goes for other high damage classes, such as Protection Paladins.

This is more true in 2v2 than 3v3, where damage plus a minimum of CC can guarantee kills, but it still is generally true. Even after the new Aspect buff, still not scared by them in a wargame setting.

We should probably be doing more of those wargame thingys.

he mentioned globalling here

A decent hunters in arena with moth just global your healer's *** (ty buble i'm able to live 8 more sec)

im not gonna back up the specifics of minis posts, saying anything can global something is extreme

I do agree with him disagreeing with bops post however

 

[CripzBlood]

Don't base your entire argument on exaggerations if you don't want to get called out on it.

?? wasnt that what u did?

or ur self reflecting?

 

[clarification]

The points he made were against this post



he mentioned globalling here



im not gonna back up the specifics of minis posts, saying anything can global something is extreme

I do agree with him disagreeing with bops post however

And I disagreed with his exaggeration concerning hunter damage and the claim that a single scatter on the healer is usually enough to kill the DPS.

?? wasnt that what u did?

or ur self reflecting?

No.

 

[Mesikämmen]

And I disagreed with his exaggeration concerning hunter damage and the claim that a single scatter on the healer is usually enough to kill the DPS.

A f2p hunter can do a good 1,5k damage in 3 globals, you gotta either have offheals or full CDs, tanky class and some luck to survive that... And yes, I would consider that globalling, albeit not in literal meaning of the word.

 

[madhombre]

thanks op for that awesome thread



no problem


and please buff huntards more, they arent dangerous at all

 

[Kiri]

Don't base your entire argument on exaggerations if you don't want to get called out on it.

And apparently you still cannot have a discussion without insults.

Insult? LOL It's more like financial advise, since you clearly wasted that money..
Also what Cripz and zehj tried to get through your skull!

 

[clarification]

Insult? LOL It's more like financial advise, since you clearly wasted that money..
Also what Cripz and zehj tried to get through your skull!

You are doing it again.

A f2p hunter can do a good 1,5k damage in 3 globals, you gotta either have offheals or full CDs, tanky class and some luck to survive that... And yes, I would consider that globalling, albeit not in literal meaning of the word.

I'll just assume that your numbers are correct here. That would require you to sit there and tank the hunter for three globals. How many classes are there that don't have heals, ways to mitigate damage or get out of range, or CC?

 

[Zehj]

And I disagreed with his exaggeration concerning hunter damage and the claim that a single scatter on the healer is usually enough to kill the DPS

you disagreed with him saying hunters global everything, it only takes common sense to know that is bull and hardly warrants calling him out on it (also he only said hunts with moths global healers)

a single scatter shot is situational, if you use it right it could usually kill the dps

 

[clarification]

you disagreed with him saying hunters global everything, it only takes common sense to know that is bull and hardly warrants calling him out on it (also he only said hunts with moths global healers)

a single scatter shot is situational, if you use it right it could usually kill the dps

I quoted him earlier saying something along the lines of hunters destroy everything in sight.

Of course a single scatter can set up kills but the statement that had been made when I entered this discussion was that a scatter on a healer is barely necessary to kill a DPS.

 

[Kiri]

You are doing it again.

I'll just assume that your numbers are correct here. That would require you to sit there and tank the hunter for three globals. How many classes are there that don't have heals, ways to mitigate damage or get out of range, or CC?

Sorry I got a bad habit of having a laugh at the expense of elitist jerks
Also bikers, wannabe gangsters and bullies, so its not just you, if that makes you feel any better?

 

[Mesikämmen]

You are doing it again.

I'll just assume that your numbers are correct here. That would require you to sit there and tank the hunter for three globals. How many classes are there that don't have heals, ways to mitigate damage or get out of range, or CC?

I tried it myself just a few minutes ago for ~10 times, should be pretty correct. You should know it is pretty hard to get out of range of a decent hunter, and also take in consideration that your teammate can do some dps too. If you don't think hunter is able to kill people within a scatter with the help of his teammate, I don't know what to say.

a scatter on a healer is barely necessary to kill a DPS.

nope

you barely need a full scatter on healer to finish off a dps..

 

[clarification]

I tried it myself just a few minutes ago for ~10 times, should be pretty correct. You should know it is pretty hard to get out of range of a decent hunter, and also take in consideration that your teammate can put out some dps too. If you don't think hunter is able to kill people within a scatter with the help of his teammate, I don't know what to say.

We are talking about arena environment here, you don't have to necessarily outrange the hunter. You can LoS, outheal, CC them, or mitigate their damage.

 

[Zehj]

I quoted him earlier saying something along the lines of hunters destroy everything in sight.

confirmed this was an exaggeration and "destroys everything" does not mean "global"

Of course a single scatter can set up kills but the statement that had been made when I entered this discussion was that a scatter on a healer is barely necessary to kill a DPS.

I agree aswell, you barely need a full scatter on healer to finish off a dps..

"finish off" implies the killing is partly done already, but we can argue pedantically all day

ultimately hunters are the most op class in the bracket, and the combination of their high cc utility and dps makes them extremely viable for arenas and bgs

to bring it back to bops post (which started this crap off) they are

dangerous