5.4 Shaman Enchants Question! Ele/Heal/FC/Melee
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Apnea
Legend
Das and I were testing damage a few days ago with different sets, he's got a few good sets going. I'd say keep an eye on his stuff for ideas for the best in elemental goodness:
Dasfizzla @ Bleeding Hollow - Community - World of Warcraft
Dasfizzla @ Bleeding Hollow - Community - World of Warcraft
Ridwane
Legend
Power Torrent got a 45 sec ICD, so Jade Spirit better, with his amount of HP, every hunt / rogue gonna laugh hard, i hope he will queue with top healers.
Apnea
Legend
Do you ever have anything productive to say? Why is it better? Show some testing experience and data for both enchants and help further the discussion of the thread instead of offering subjective opinions.
Das is one of the best, if not THE best 19 shamans in the game, so I generally trust what he says regarding the matter. Also rogues and hunters are going to laugh at everything regardless of their opponents' hp pools. They're both once again ridiculously overpowered and are going to be a plague.
Trijea
Legend
the set he is using is questionable at best. picking 1 int over 3 crit by choosing mindthrusts while picking 3 crit over 4 int and 1 stam for first ring slot. picking 1 stam and 2 crit over 2 haste and 1 int on the cloak while also picking 6 int over 10 stam and 6 crit in the chest slot.
also saying that health pool doesnt matter makes u look rather stupid
Apnea
Legend
I'm not here to defend his gear choices, simply offering a reply to OP who's looking for information for his shaman and Das' set is one of the best I've seen so far.
When rogues and hunters can kill anything with 2000hp in 3 seconds, what difference does it make if someone has 1800hp or 2000hp? Please don't tell me you're another one of those Euros that just comes into threads to derail them with off-topic posts and people being bad and stupid.
Offer some input, post some data and testing experience related to the OP's discussion and feel free to propose a better set, or go away.
Cannabis12
The One The Only
Cannäbis @ Bleeding Hollow - Community - World of Warcraft
this is what im running
ik i need new enchant on shoudlers, also know that i am still tinkering about with enchants/gear
this is what im running
ik i need new enchant on shoudlers, also know that i am still tinkering about with enchants/gear
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First of all, it is still early in the Patch to fully determine what's the best setup to use.
Secondly, the reason why I am using Mindthrusts is because I am an oldschool twink, therefore the reason why I do not have 3/3/3 crit bracers is because I obtained the 3/3/3 hit bracers being that they were best in slot for capping 7 hit rating in Cataclysm.
Thirdly, obviously my health is ridiculously low because it's clearly a bursting test setup and it's quite effective might I add. Though, in a pug it would be recommended you stack more hp, I'd suggest around 2k. I was doing some test duels with Curley and my only survival depended on using Stone Bulwark Totem, otherwise I'd die in two shots every time.
Secondly, the reason why I am using Mindthrusts is because I am an oldschool twink, therefore the reason why I do not have 3/3/3 crit bracers is because I obtained the 3/3/3 hit bracers being that they were best in slot for capping 7 hit rating in Cataclysm.
Thirdly, obviously my health is ridiculously low because it's clearly a bursting test setup and it's quite effective might I add. Though, in a pug it would be recommended you stack more hp, I'd suggest around 2k. I was doing some test duels with Curley and my only survival depended on using Stone Bulwark Totem, otherwise I'd die in two shots every time.
Mocha
Legendary
Guys let's settle down a bit. If you're going to say that something is better than something else please give a reason why you think that. By all means share and discuss opinions but please do provide reason as well.
Apnea does have a point... If you're going to die in under 2 seconds regardless of 1400 hp vs1800 hp to a rogue it really doesn't matter lol.
I honestly haven't began gearing my other 19s besides my rogues but if I were to supply a general opinion I would say that crit and haste are far superior for a shammy simply because shammies are already throwing lightning bolts for 40% someone's health pool anyways and there's nothing you can do to stop them from doing so besides losing / countering (both of which are hard to come by in wsg) I would say a healthy amount of haste followed by somewhere around 30% crit would be ideal if not more than that.
However, I am not much of a shammy so I would trust a shammy who is often regarded as being the most skilled shaman of all time (Such as Dasfizzla) to provide insight on how he chooses to gear the way he does and if you should follow in his footsteps or not.
Just my 2c
Apnea does have a point... If you're going to die in under 2 seconds regardless of 1400 hp vs1800 hp to a rogue it really doesn't matter lol.
I honestly haven't began gearing my other 19s besides my rogues but if I were to supply a general opinion I would say that crit and haste are far superior for a shammy simply because shammies are already throwing lightning bolts for 40% someone's health pool anyways and there's nothing you can do to stop them from doing so besides losing / countering (both of which are hard to come by in wsg) I would say a healthy amount of haste followed by somewhere around 30% crit would be ideal if not more than that.
However, I am not much of a shammy so I would trust a shammy who is often regarded as being the most skilled shaman of all time (Such as Dasfizzla) to provide insight on how he chooses to gear the way he does and if you should follow in his footsteps or not.
Just my 2c
Trijea
Legend
i listed every item and enchant choice that didnt make sense, thats my input. do i need to hold your hand while ur trying to understand what im writing?
Purj
boomer shaman
Purj @ Turalyon - Community - World of Warcraft
This is what I'm running at the moment.
Not sure what I'm feeling between Power Torrent and Black Magic yet. Both are pretty alright. Higher crits vs faster casts. May take me a while to figure it out.
I'll post some numbers back in a bit.
This is what I'm running at the moment.
Not sure what I'm feeling between Power Torrent and Black Magic yet. Both are pretty alright. Higher crits vs faster casts. May take me a while to figure it out.
I'll post some numbers back in a bit.
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After reading up on Jade Spirit and Power Torrent the OP was right about the ICD, Jade Spirit is better, so I'll be using that now. In my opinion, I think that Jade Spirit> Black Magic because you have Lifeblood for on demand fast fasts while you can have Jade Spirit proc for the extra burst damage. It all comes down to personal preference though.
This is my new updated setup that I like right now;
Dasfizzla @ Bleeding Hollow - Community - World of Warcraft
Apnea
Legend
That looks pretty sweet actually, I quite like that set
How's it been doing in testing?
It has a great balance of Crit, Spellpower, hp, and haste as well. my goal was ~2k hp, ~220sp, ~30% crit. After a lot of tinkering I ended up with that. Also, I'm using 8 haste on boots. I think it's quite nice to have, it brings my Lightning Bolt cast time down to 1.7 and Healing Surge to 1.3.That looks pretty sweet actually, I quite like that set
Ridwane
Legend
How come if all i say is trash he swap to Jade spirit ? Did he notice there is a better proc rate when Power Torrent got 45 sec ICD ? Actually i tried it on EU environment (aka full rogues and hunter alliance) i'm sorry about that part but yeah with his 1k6 HP (i noticied he swap to 2k HP aswell) everysingle rogue and hunter gonna eat him if he don't have his 2k HP, cuz most of healers will just notice the ambush (1k6 max) the 2 extra melee hit to kill the shaman will be shield or Holy shocked if he have 2k HP. In before you queue top healers US will preshot the ambush with a preheal.
Ridwane
Legend
Try hard ?