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I play F2P. I wouldn't want to play this bracket ever, the arrogance, elitism and just plain foolishness is mocked upon by everybody else. Would be an embarrassment to be involved in the 19s.

I was hoping to see some video's of these so called 'top Mage's'. Cause all I see is chit chat and no video's... a shame really, would love to see these 'amazing' mage's like Uraflamer etc on YouTube.

Can you link me some top mages video's in the F2P bracket i wanna laugh hard plz. #easy bracket
 
Can you link me some top mages video's in the F2P bracket i wanna laugh hard plz. #easy bracket

[F2P] Nevmind 4 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 5 - Frost Mage Twink Arathi Basin - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 6 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 7 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 8 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube

Nev is one of the better Mage's in the bracket. Like every bracket, there aren't many under powered classes and a lot of people playing easy/over powered classes. If you want to see more F2P Mage quality content then please hold tight until I finish a video i'm working on. ;)
 
[F2P] Nevmind 4 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 5 - Frost Mage Twink Arathi Basin - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 6 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 7 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 8 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube

Nev is one of the better Mage's in the bracket. Like every bracket, there aren't many under powered classes and a lot of people playing easy/over powered classes. If you want to see more F2P Mage quality content then please hold tight until I finish a video i'm working on. ;)
+666 for epic post rock soundtrack
ive seen this will destroy you like 1000 times because theyre from here
 
[F2P] Nevmind 4 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 5 - Frost Mage Twink Arathi Basin - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 6 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 7 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 8 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube

Nev is one of the better Mage's in the bracket. Like every bracket, there aren't many under powered classes and a lot of people playing easy/over powered classes. If you want to see more F2P Mage quality content then please hold tight until I finish a video i'm working on. ;)

yeah yo so fucking good mate, kill those skeying retards and landing css because none of them fake or even try to fake.

Good joke but sprhmerganic or that other random orc mage that was fucking awful in cata and they are both better better than that shit and they were probs some of the worst rofl.
 
i pack a lip probably 3 times a year. when i walked into my home this morning hungover as fuck packing an absolute bomb i achieved #1 mage. i dont even have a mage on my account... but im #1 mage

edit: not to fucking mention i smashed a girl to this song last night so any claim that HB had has been usurped.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z59EVHU8MjI
 
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Mods, why is this EU f2p still making these obnoxious troll posts in our US 19s thread?
 
[F2P] Nevmind 4 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 5 - Frost Mage Twink Arathi Basin - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 6 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 7 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube
[F2P] Nevmind 8 - Frost Mage PvP Twink - YouTube

Nev is one of the better Mage's in the bracket. Like every bracket, there aren't many under powered classes and a lot of people playing easy/over powered classes. If you want to see more F2P Mage quality content then please hold tight until I finish a video i'm working on. ;)

Okay i watched the Nevmind 4.

The first minute= Farming backped priest gg no re too gud.

1:15 = Nice WOTF into DR Psyfiend / Got faked CS cuz of fear psyfiend.

2:40 = Why the paly didn't blood elf silence the first poly ? Oh yeah Nevmind wanted me to see how shit is the bracket.

3:00 Pally buble after rogue's death ? Rly ? Plus the whole arena is Hpal / Disc / Mage agaisnt that fake melee cleave war / rogue / pal ? they gonna get kited whole day sorry no point.

3:46 How could he fraps this warrior (Betasky) fall down, did he want to show how top warrior play in the bracket ?

5:30 Wow is that hard to kite a paly without freedom whole day ? Plus he got faked twice...

Should i watch Nevmind 5/6/7/8 ? Or you got my point ? Btw tell Nevmind, Shporganic can teach him to improve a little bit.
 

He has some fair points though, 19s is mostly what he described it to be and it is partly the reason why no one is willing to contribute anything meaningful to the bracket anymore & why most people don't give a fuck about the bracket
 
He has some fair points though, 19s is mostly what he described it to be and it is partly the reason why no one is willing to contribute anything meaningful to the bracket anymore & why most people don't give a fuck about the bracket

The reason why the 19 bracket is quite inactive is because most of the bad players couldnt handle the meta and moved to f2p instead.

If people can't man up and try to improve when others talk down on them then that's their issue. They have the possibility to move to the active f2p bracket where everyone is nice and noone even thinks about improving. There is a reason why you see most good players "flame/rage" on the worse ones. The better players have obviously been "flamed" by better players some time, but actually took it as advice and tried to improve their gameplay instead of crying.

The 19 bracket is so many levels above the f2p bracket. F2p is hardly competitive at all, so it's difficult for the players in that bracket to improve. Competition is a major mechanic in evolution of all sorts. Be it evolution of economy, politics or the skill level in the 19 bracket in WoW. In dictatorships where only one political party is allowed, the party doesn't necessarily need to please the people. It's only time-wasting since they remain in a governing position either way. If there isn't any competition, there are no reasons to improve.
 
He has some fair points though, 19s is mostly what he described it to be and it is partly the reason why no one is willing to contribute anything meaningful to the bracket anymore & why most people don't give a fuck about the bracket

Pls the thread is marked for US so stop tainting it with ur Eu horror story's n shit, US has tons of twinks striving to better themselves and the others around them by providing competitive games/constructive criticism now this only works when the receiving end is willing/notdaft, needless to say US hasn't died yet stop tryin to bash it were surviving having competitive games premades frequent- also my bullet to add to the wounded soldier, at least US pugmades/realids can put up competitive play vs guilds just shows how the gap of randoms n toptwinks is narrowing
 
The reason why the 19 bracket is quite inactive is because most of the bad players couldnt handle the meta and moved to f2p instead.

If people can't man up and try to improve when others talk down on them then that's their issue. They have the possibility to move to the active f2p bracket where everyone is nice and noone even thinks about improving. There is a reason why you see most good players "flame/rage" on the worse ones. The better players have obviously been "flamed" by better players some time, but actually took it as advice and tried to improve their gameplay instead of crying.

The 19 bracket is so many levels above the f2p bracket. F2p is hardly competitive at all, so it's difficult for the players in that bracket to improve. Competition is a major mechanic in evolution of all sorts. Be it evolution of economy, politics or the skill level in the 19 bracket in WoW. In dictatorships where only one political party is allowed, the party doesn't necessarily need to please the people. It's only time-wasting since they remain in a governing position either way. If there isn't any competition, there are no reasons to improve.

Partially true I think. A good majority of players in this bracket have hugely inflated egos, and instead of constructive criticism and guidance to help those sub-par or new to the bracket players, they usually just rage at them in game or make sure everyone on the forums knows how bad they think those players are. There are far more comments like "wow omg so badx huehueh get novaed scrub lo0l0ol trashe bucket player" than there are like "hey, looks like you could benefit from this guide, read up on this forum and follow this gear advice, check out this youtube video for some cool tips on improving your play".

Of course part of this is the player's fault too, there will always be idiots who refuse to take any advice and think they're the greatest thing to ever play the bracket, though the insulting and raging is far more common in this bracket than helpful advice.
 
Partially true I think. A good majority of players in this bracket have hugely inflated egos, and instead of constructive criticism and guidance to help those sub-par or new to the bracket players, they usually just rage at them in game or make sure everyone on the forums knows how bad they think those players are. There are far more comments like "wow omg so badx huehueh get novaed scrub lo0l0ol trashe bucket player" than there are like "hey, looks like you could benefit from this guide, read up on this forum and follow this gear advice, check out this youtube video for some cool tips on improving your play".

Of course part of this is the player's fault too, there will always be idiots who refuse to take any advice and think they're the greatest thing to ever play the bracket, though the insulting and raging is far more common in this bracket than helpful advice.

First of all, most guides are for complete newbies that don't even know how to gear or what "rotation" they should use in PvP.

Secondarily, I've never seen anyone take friendly advice. You have to point out their mistakes in a way that makes them listen. Giving them an angry/irritated message that tells them what to do is required in order for them to realise that it was horrible and shouldn't have been done. From that point all it takes is practice, which shouldn't be too hard considering a lot of good 19s are willing to duel/arena in case WSG doesn't pop.

Of course there are exceptions, but what's wrong with flaming? If people don't want to get flamed for being bad, they will obviously try to take criticism and improve so they won't get flamed again. Sure, you can hurt someone. And some weaklings might actually want to quit the game after getting flamed (which would result in less activity), but I don't see why anyone would take offence from a random player in a video game. There are worse things to worry about.

If you want concrete proof, look at the EU bracket. HSA, and Carebears all have a lot of players that never seem to improve. They are also very nice and don't tolerate flaming at all, or so I've understood (at least HSA). On the other hand, guilds like TL do by far have the greatest quantity of quality players, but do you see them exhorting friendly attitudes constantly?
 
My dad worked in Newark. Interesting place.
 
First of all, most guides are for complete newbies that don't even know how to gear or what "rotation" they should use in PvP.

Secondarily, I've never seen anyone take friendly advice. You have to point out their mistakes in a way that makes them listen. Giving them an angry/irritated message that tells them what to do is required in order for them to realise that it was horrible and shouldn't have been done. From that point all it takes is practice, which shouldn't be too hard considering a lot of good 19s are willing to duel/arena in case WSG doesn't pop.

Of course there are exceptions, but what's wrong with flaming? If people don't want to get flamed for being bad, they will obviously try to take criticism and improve so they won't get flamed again. Sure, you can hurt someone. And some weaklings might actually want to quit the game after getting flamed (which would result in less activity), but I don't see why anyone would take offence from a random player in a video game. There are worse things to worry about.

If you want concrete proof, look at the EU bracket. HSA, and Carebears all have a lot of players that never seem to improve. They are also very nice and don't tolerate flaming at all, or so I've understood (at least HSA). On the other hand, guilds like TL do by far have the greatest quantity of quality players, but do you see them exhorting friendly attitudes constantly?

Maybe that's one of the contributing factors to why your region's 19 games died and you're here playing in the US now? Insulting people and telling them they're horrible is no way to increase their desire to improve, and farming them because they're unskilled won't help improve their gameplay either. Maybe you've never seen anyone take friendly advice because you're one of the egos that refuses to give friendly advice in lieu of raging and flaming? You honestly sound like you live in North Korea or were a member of the SS in a past life lol. PLAY AT THE TOP TIER OF EXCELLENCE OR DIE etc.

"There are worse things to worry about" is irrelevant because it doesn't relate to the game at all. Of course there are a billion other things to worry about in the world, but we play this game to alleviate worry. We play this game as a hobby, an escape, and as a means of disconnecting from real life and enjoying something fun. The bracket would benefit as a whole from more players willing to help others and get along, rather than egos raging out at the first chance they get because someone isn't playing to their expectation.
 
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