Emil's Brand vs. BAR on an Arms Warrior

[Imfasttoo]

Which weapon is considered best and why?
Emil's Brand
Bloodied Arcanite Reaper

 

[Stubs]

Bloodied Arcanite Reaper
Item Level 1
Binds to Battle.net account
Two-Hand Axe
60 - 91 Damage Speed 3.80
(20.0 damage per second)
+6 Strength
+10 Stamina
+6 Critical Strike (2.03% @ L19)
Requires level 1 to 80 (19)

VS

Emil's Brand
Item Level 32
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Sword
53 - 81 Damage Speed 3.10
(21.8 damage per second)
+11 Strength
+3 Stamina
Durability 85 / 85

for the lazy people who cba go onto wowhead to check stats and i have no idea whats best

 

[Yapah]

Loom 2h is best, unless your using frost oil. Then go with Emil's Brand, at least thats what I would do

 

[Mocha]

3.8 speed hits a lot harder but overall close in dps Also arms warriors are quite low on crit so the bonus crit is nice with BAR. Just my opinion frost oil + brand or bar.

 

[Pump]

3.8 speed hits a lot harder but overall close in dps Also arms warriors are quite low on crit so the bonus crit is nice with BAR. Just my opinion frost oil + brand or bar.

You should start off with emils, when you get a crusa proc u switch to the loom and wait for another crusa proc, then you hit like a truck. only way to play a viable 19s arms warr.

 

[Mocha]

You should start off with emils, when you get a crusa proc u switch to the loom and wait for another crusa proc, then you hit like a truck. only way to play a viable 19s arms warr.

I would honestly disagree... Reason being with a 3.1 speed vs a 3.8 speed you will have way more hits in which crusader does not proc on emil's brand vs BAR where the white hits will be larger and crusader will appear to proc more often.

Given a warrior's lack of Time on Target it would make more sense to have 2 huge special attacks and another larger white hit given that heroic strike and mortal strike can be macrod and do not share gcd so that would be 1 key press and 2 huge yellow hits along with a white hit, than 2 smallish white hits and 2 smaller special attacks. Warriors already have an abundance of AP and a lack of crit in my opinion. Their attack power is already over 310 or so without emil's +11 strength. Warriors specials are already huge enough and the bonus crit is going to be more effective since yellow crits are already in the several hundred, 400+.

This is also why I roll with a build more centered around raising the crit towards 20% while keeping the AP over 300.

Coming from a rogue's perspective I'm used to my AP granting stat (AGIL) also granting a crit of over 45% or so. Then switching to a character who has around 14% crit. Yikes.

Degrading from 3.8 speed to 3.1 is a huge decrease in the amount of damage a crit will do. Especially how specials are not on a weapon speed swing timer. Warriors typically aim for 3.5 speed and higher because anything less than that feels more like a wet noodle.

I would say that crit with a 3.8 speed weapon is by far superior on a warrior given that you only have the time on target in most scenarios to mortal / heroic a target once *maybe twice* with perhaps 1 -2 white hits in between but those hits are anywhere from 199 white non crit to 670 special crit with a 3.8 weapon. 3.1 weapon would be much less.

I feel like emil's brand would make more sense in a fight longer than 30 seconds especially how white hits are several hundred less in damage than specials. With rage potions your specials would be hitting way more often than whites anyways in which case you're sacrificing larger white hits for smaller yellows which make up most of your damage anyways which is gimping yourself.

 

[Lil Throwed]

Both are great weapons to have. Especially for your STR/crit sets.

 

[Dorigon]

Just go with BAR, that weapon switching shit has no place in today's game.

 

[Ridwane]

Yeah pretty much what Dory say, waste of GCD to swap weapons everytime...

 

[RANDYLAYHEE]

dory and angel have both gone crazy in this day and age its all about the saders unless ur happy seeing 400 crits u want to see a man crit u double proc that sader, even if it takes u two bgs to do it.

 

[Pump]

Im not talking bout gulch games, and it's viable there aswell, but the fact is an arms warrior is made for arenas at this level.

 

[Flamer]

Use Emil's Brand with frost oil and once you get a crusader proc swap to the BAR then switch back after Holy Strength is gone.

It's situational, the only reason you use Emil's Brand is for chance at slow from Frost oil for more ToT. If you aren't really chasing then there isn't really any reason to use it and you should be using the BAR.