Do you guys think shadowstep Will ever be brought back ??
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Mesikämmen
pwner
no plz keep dmg increase
then i can 1,2k ambush and muti evis another 1k i love rogue now so fun XD AJAJA
greenyee
Legend
ShS has not had dmg increase when used since start of mop.
Mocha
Legendary
Shadowstep has always been seen as a higher level ability for rogues. Most lower level brackets have crippling poisons which nearly eliminate the absolute dependency on the use of shadowstep to merely stay on target.
I personally felt that it was too much for a level 10 rogue to handle and should only occur in brackets 49+ roughly. I did not LIKE having shadowstep as a 19 rogue for it made for lazy gameplay. I had to make it fun for myself which is what I did in my 19 rogue video thinking outside of the box +1!!!!!!
It would perhaps be more logical to see crippling poisons introduced at levels lower than 20. However, personally I would not like to have crippling present in our bracket because once they are present in a bracket PvP feels like you are participating with your walk key toggled on the whole game
just my 2c!
I apologize for being opposed to having shadowstep reimplemented at lower levels if it were something that you really hope comes back. I know there are things about 19s that I wish were different and it's never fun to hear someone shoot those down. I would suggest write the Devs and try to detect some movement on the WoW forums for it. Best of luck!
Mocha
I personally felt that it was too much for a level 10 rogue to handle and should only occur in brackets 49+ roughly. I did not LIKE having shadowstep as a 19 rogue for it made for lazy gameplay. I had to make it fun for myself which is what I did in my 19 rogue video
thinking outside of the box +1!!!!!! It would perhaps be more logical to see crippling poisons introduced at levels lower than 20. However, personally I would not like to have crippling present in our bracket because once they are present in a bracket PvP feels like you are participating with your walk key toggled on the whole game
just my 2c!
I apologize for being opposed to having shadowstep reimplemented at lower levels if it were something that you really hope comes back. I know there are things about 19s that I wish were different and it's never fun to hear someone shoot those down. I would suggest write the Devs and try to detect some movement on the WoW forums for it. Best of luck!
Mocha
Khaos
Dare to be Optimistic
I would rather see touch of karma for monks (lvl 22 spell moved down to 19 I think that would be plausible)
back on topic I dont think rogues need shadowstep. As a melee class they have the most opening burst in the game and if you need shadowstep to rely on then you need to learn your class alittle better. There is items out there that can slow a target down that would allow for more time on target.
(lvl 22 spell moved down to 19 I think that would be plausible)back on topic I dont think rogues need shadowstep. As a melee class they have the most opening burst in the game and if you need shadowstep to rely on then you need to learn your class alittle better. There is items out there that can slow a target down that would allow for more time on target.
Jetlife
Legend
they wont get it back even tho they need it imo. its like the only class where u just spend half or more of the duration that ur playing it simply just going for combat drops to get restealths. if they gave step back, the strategy probably wouldnt be built on using two buttons to make anything happen as a rogue(aka ambush and then 5point evisc).
and also the class wouldnt be easier lol, if anyone actually has used step since it was taken away from 19s, u can step friendly's now too, would honestly add a whole new component to rogue play but for now stealth ambush evisc go
and also the class wouldnt be easier lol, if anyone actually has used step since it was taken away from 19s, u can step friendly's now too, would honestly add a whole new component to rogue play but for now stealth ambush evisc go
Trialdruid
the Oracle
sprint if anything
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IhazBankz
Pwner
its amazing aint it, credit to Redrum who made/designed it, hes amazing at makin these type of things
Eriwen
Legend
u guys are lost, there's no dmg increase on it since MoP release, only difference between then and now is that dmg buff is gone and you can ShS Alliances, imo this abillity is way too OP for this bracket since you can just ShS out of almost any situation and reset a fight.
shanker
OG
imo, shadowstep will not be brought back
yes shadow step was once a high level ability, but it was given because other classes were granted hi level abilities also. problem being that rogues lost theirs along with numerous key van-WOW base abilities or talents once not in the bracket. problem is that the other classes kept their abilities and gained way more. imo rogues got over stripped.
like:
- hunter scatter shot, DE, sprint/rooting talent, spammable no cost conc (used to cost mana....oom and no conc)
- mages - blink, elemental with additional root, blazing speed
- druids at 19 now have more abilities than a 39 twink ever had in van-WOW thru WOTLK
- paladin speed boosts, insta heals, crusader strike
- shaman insta GW, blow back (ele-spec)
rogues (without DS buff) generally have to crutch on the berserker hut to pull those 1000+ amb's
rogues when they produce high damage in BGs are because they are usually carried by the better DPS/healed team. there is soo much focus facing on the bal druids, hunters, priests throwing DPS< that the occasional rogue has free reign.....hence carried.
when you have too many on your team it shows, because in their stealth trips to check the hut or time wasted to set up a AMB it essentially makes your team short. if they aren't on the better DPS/healed team they either actually AFK or worse stay in the game, yet rarely pop stealth
pizza once said it on this forum, too many rogues on a team are a liability,.......still solid today
not a @post, but certain self proclaimed rogues, aren't the rogues they claim unless they are in premades (however composed, same realm pugmades, CRZ grouping, etc). when they are saved 8 times in one fight because of guaranteed over heals they are good and shine.
blizzard dev's intentionally over reacted imo, to the QQ threads on rogues. if you level players in BGs it's still happening.
- i had a 22 in a BG a player was flaming BG chat about rogues being OP with stuns and locks and nothing has changed in 8+ years. i look at BG stat list...there are no rogues either side. i informed him and told him it was a monk that stun wiped him.
- my 46 hunter was in a BG, when a player whined about rogues stun locking him at a farm fight in AB, once agin, there were no rogues in that BG of 30 players. i was at the farm and he got HOJ'd
i think blizzard realized that some of the QQ they were getting in BGs/arenas etc. was false either from GM tickets or posted on the forums, that why they added the loss of control alerts.
however will low level rogues get back some talents that they were stripped of, probably not
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yes shadow step was once a high level ability, but it was given because other classes were granted hi level abilities also. problem being that rogues lost theirs along with numerous key van-WOW base abilities or talents once not in the bracket. problem is that the other classes kept their abilities and gained way more. imo rogues got over stripped.
like:
- hunter scatter shot, DE, sprint/rooting talent, spammable no cost conc (used to cost mana....oom and no conc)
- mages - blink, elemental with additional root, blazing speed
- druids at 19 now have more abilities than a 39 twink ever had in van-WOW thru WOTLK
- paladin speed boosts, insta heals, crusader strike
- shaman insta GW, blow back (ele-spec)
rogues (without DS buff) generally have to crutch on the berserker hut to pull those 1000+ amb's
rogues when they produce high damage in BGs are because they are usually carried by the better DPS/healed team. there is soo much focus facing on the bal druids, hunters, priests throwing DPS< that the occasional rogue has free reign.....hence carried.
when you have too many on your team it shows, because in their stealth trips to check the hut or time wasted to set up a AMB it essentially makes your team short. if they aren't on the better DPS/healed team they either actually AFK or worse stay in the game, yet rarely pop stealth
pizza once said it on this forum, too many rogues on a team are a liability,.......still solid today
not a @post, but certain self proclaimed rogues, aren't the rogues they claim unless they are in premades (however composed, same realm pugmades, CRZ grouping, etc). when they are saved 8 times in one fight because of guaranteed over heals they are good and shine.
blizzard dev's intentionally over reacted imo, to the QQ threads on rogues. if you level players in BGs it's still happening.
- i had a 22 in a BG a player was flaming BG chat about rogues being OP with stuns and locks and nothing has changed in 8+ years. i look at BG stat list...there are no rogues either side. i informed him and told him it was a monk that stun wiped him.
- my 46 hunter was in a BG, when a player whined about rogues stun locking him at a farm fight in AB, once agin, there were no rogues in that BG of 30 players. i was at the farm and he got HOJ'd
i think blizzard realized that some of the QQ they were getting in BGs/arenas etc. was false either from GM tickets or posted on the forums, that why they added the loss of control alerts.
however will low level rogues get back some talents that they were stripped of, probably not
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