youakim
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But what about their 6 sec cd Lay on Hands that doesn't affect their target with forbearance?
Huntards may be nerfed, but....
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1993.
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casonus was raging about what happened in cata.And i responded with cata data. Do you really think ive never done various amounts of tests or duels on this guy ? And he never had the 25% arcane damage reduction, so consider how much less arcane shot was hititng.We dueled many, many times,I may be the sh1ttiest hunter but I know how to CC any screenshot of mine the enemy healers will not push out more than 10k heals when im boxing
This is just proof what I had a bis little paladin too, the fact that it took that ''thing'' to go OOM or that blood elves had the almighty arcane resists and a full focus dump from a brerzerking 24 hunter doesnt kill them still induces rage into me to this day.These are just screenshots of proof were I facerolled on accident, but I know you wont believe stats so ill have to incudle them,
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the actual mana,
yeah 2nd screenshot is me, no binds because I went on his acc,remove approx 20-30 life because we swapped from skeletal gauntlets to gold flecked gloves
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SallyG
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Druiddroid
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Omgwtfsap
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Idk why but I have trouble following what you are saying so sorry if I misunderstand. You are not the best hunter I get that. You are complaining that +4 levels, buffs, and stats is not enough (much less for a f2p) to go against another f2p pally thus its a bad thing. I disagree but to help you out it seems you made so many mistakes to let the pally go oom before dying. You probably just did an initial focus dump and continued on focus starved. Learn to burst as a hunter. Dont spam AShot and hope something dies. Even as a 24 play wisely. Spam Steady shot while strafing or even backpedaling and occasionally throw in a kill command or AS but dont let your focus stay below 75%( get an addon to keep track of focus). the goal is for your enemy to get at a bursting range to score a kill. Once they get at 50% health burst them with everything and when they are about to heal interrupt or if they bubble just rinse and repeat.
How to Set Up Burst in Arena PvP as a Feral Druid - YouTube
how druids do it but the same rules apply.
1993.
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ughh ok here. There is no point of arguing you do not have to believe anything i say but The realm I used to play on was dead..there was no other twinks so there was nothing else to do but testing/slaying high lvl mobs. when you didnt want to do bgs.All we did otherwise is duels.I had used a bat and scatter and full focus dumps. and herbalism 55 haste and it wouldnt burst them..yes we would use lay on hands/agm in a duel but id play the duel as it as ''in a real battleground''
And ..I might be a #2345254 hunter..but really kill command on a 2.k armor prot paladin?Id rather use another arcane shot...i think i still have some common sense left in me
Yeah the paladin would ''eventually'' OOM but it takes approx a minute of constant damage and in WSG help usiually arrives in less than that.
And ..I might be a #2345254 hunter..but really kill command on a 2.k armor prot paladin?Id rather use another arcane shot...i think i still have some common sense left in me
Yeah the paladin would ''eventually'' OOM but it takes approx a minute of constant damage and in WSG help usiually arrives in less than that.
bigdip
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You should have absolutely NO PROBLEM killing any prot pally under 2k health. If you are speced BM that is. 90% do not heal until at 50% health, then you can stun lock them to death / burst them to death.
And with zerking it is very much possible to to kill resto druids under roughly 1.5-6 health. Stun, arcane, then quick stun again, arcane/steady, stun again. Most wont get off a rejuv in between your stuns and you should have enough focus to burst them after your stuns are out. Without zerking can be a bit tougher but still doable to all of the rerolls.
I just don't understand why you bitch so much, life for the hunter really is not as bad as you make it out to be.
Mrcer
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View attachment 834View attachment 835 as you can see in the screenshots, being top damage and dps both teams, and top KB most of the times ally side, is very frequent on my MOP huntard, i love this class. SO IF A HUNTER FEELING STILL BEATS IN YER HEART QUIT PLAYING THAT SPRIEST AND PICKUP YER BOW AND ARROWS AND THROW YER PET A WHISTLE.....!!
P.S. I'm not a gy farmer nor mid fighter....
The difference between MOP and Cata is a bad hunter was still killing good players. Undergeared hunters were 1shotting BiS geared twinks.
In MoP, an Undergeared hunter will not come close to killing a BiS Twink. an Undergeared but pro hunter will just be annoying, but still won't be an issue. a Geared Hunter but still a baddie will get roflstomped by a BiS Geared Twink. a Geared Hunter who actually is really good at playing their class is a pain in the ass to fight; great dmg, great control and overall difficult to fight 1vs1.
And with hunters still able to Attack @melee range with their abilities; it makes it harder to deal w/ backpedaling hunters but at least they nerfed the dmg a bit so it's not lolol1shot.
Overall, a bad hunter is not going to look OP anymore unlike cata. a geared hunter who's really good @their class @lvl 20 will make hunters look OP. But this can be said about any class or any class combinations.
an easy comparison are druids. Druids aren't OP. A Bad player playing a Druid will probably say druids are weak. They'll say Boomkins and ferals have no survival and you die too quickly. Or that resto druids druids are squishy when they get sit on. But everyone knows that when you're fighting a GOOD druid, they are unkillable, uncatchable, they do too much damage, and that their heals are too OP.
It just depends on how you look at it. Hunters are in a good place right now imo. It's not lol1shot anymore and the only thing blizzard could do to nerf hunters that I would respectably agree with is removing the ability to attack at all at melee range. Or at least reduce the damage from Melee-10yrd range by 50%. Hunter's aren't Legolas, you can't pull your arrow out and stab someone in the head.
btw if hunters get to use ranged abilities at melee range, I should be able to cast starsurge while someone LoS's me by running behind me during my cast. It's only fair right?
1993.
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tbh hunters were fine in cata its just 99.9% people were glass cannon...
youakim
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1993.
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you know Im not a special snowflake and the fact that I have to rely on massive crutches makes me bad.I could try explaining to you that hunters were fine but it would take pages and its pointless
anyways ...you could see a hunter from miles away, now lets talk about the burst rogues can do
Omgwtfsap
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nah just by having a powershifting macro and rejuvenation key-bound any druid can stay away from the enemy's reach. If only druids had at least one interrupt @20 then ferals would be op.
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youakim
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Hunters were fine against healers, sure. Against other dps though, that was a completely different story.
Omgwtfsap
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twinkinfo community has more pointless things to talk about and discuss as opposed to theorycrafting or cookies.
Swoops
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FTFY!
Were hunters beatable? yes. Does that mean they were fine? nooo.
Rogues have a lot of burst, but they can be countered with peels/kiting (and being aware of incoming eviscerates/healing even when you have above 50% health). Rogue damage is kind of a necessary evil with the current state of things though. They're a great counter to terrible pallies and druids.
1993.
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i dont have many cata screenshots but this was simply achieved by using blessing of kings/minor magic protection potion/15 fire resist cloak enchant(unlike the 100% others who ran 8 agil 8 dodge i decided I could do fine without 16 AP)
http://imgur.com/lMsLI
do the math yourself. 52% damage simply absorbed. F2p hunters explosive shot did 300ish crit ticks.Suddenly you are critting laughable 70s and 40s noncrit.24s were crtting 150s max.Now If i would stack sayges fortune 25 resist ontop..then be a blood elf for 24 arcane res(@lvl 24)+wear charged gears/emissary cuffs+that one time only 10 resist all azshara quest buff I could possibly push to 100% arcane resists..i dont know what would happen but you could probably be immune..I always wanted to make that belf but due to time constraints it never worked out..
Now ID sometimes pop a fire protection potion for extra ''1300 hp'' but those were always annoying to farm
I know very well what explosive/arcane shot and how much it used to hurt but the fact that everyone, and I mean everyone ran around glass cannon and then complained hunters hit them for 500 explosive shot ticks.
La'Haryl
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bigdip
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I don't think we are in cata any more