Heirloom > Shadowfang

[Caulfield]

i was referring to every dam rogue twinker in here who doesnt sap effectively

Wanting to see more saps out of poly/fear/HoJ etc, chain cc is so cool.

 

[Vladar]

All i wanted to achieve by performing all those calculations was to cease debates and doubts concerning the value of respectively Shadowfang and Venerable Mace of McGowan

 

[Yapah]

--------------------------------------Mathematical Elaboration and Conclusion-----------------------------------------------

z= 42 (constant because it applies to both SF and McGowan
x= Weapon DPS 15,56 / 15
y= Weapon Speed 2,7 / 2,8
Average Melee Swing Damage (with complete disregard for additional stats)
Venerable Mass of McGowan: (29,4+54,6)/2 = 42 (in MH)
Shadowfang: (29+55)/2 = 42 (in MH)
Now taking into account additional stats:
1 agility = 1,88 AP; 0,078% Crit = (0,0714*1,88)+(x*0,00078) = 0,14636 (SF) / 0,14598 (McGowan) DPS
1 AP = 0,0714 DPS (Is added to both MH and OH not shared however the OH damage reduction does apply)
1 Crit = 0,3375% Crit = (x*0,003375) = 0,0525 (SF) / 0,0506 (McGowan) DPS
1 Haste = 0,473% Haste = (z/(y*(1-0,00473)))-x = 0,069 (SF) / 0,071 (McGowan) DPS
"Shadowy Bolt" now i did some testing and hit the same player 200 times and shadowy bolt procced 11 times now i see a pattern emerging so i round it off 50 5% chance which seems pretty accurate. It caused average of 19 - 20 depending on amount of resilience gear.
Given said proc chance:
(0,05*19,5)/2,7 = 0,361 DPS

--------THE CONCLUSION---------

Shadowfang:
15,56 DPS
+
6 Agility (6*0,14636)
Shadowy Bolts (0,361)
=
16,7826DPS V 44,338/Hit

Venerable Mace McGowan
15 DPS
+
3 Agility (3*0,14598)
2 Haste (2*0,071)
2 Critical Strike (2*0,0506)
Energy Regeneration (0,10/s) roughly 0,3 DPS considering hemorrhage or the monk equivalent Keg Smash would cost 40 energy.
=
15,981 DPS V 43,907 / Hit

So with regard to marginals in all aspects shadowfang has a substantial DPS lead and despite it's swifter speed it hit's with a greater potency nonetheless and hence not even abilities that benefit from weapon damage should be considered a valid argument in favor of McGowan. I calculated the DPS of Shadowfang myself because the label contradict aforementioned speed and average damage. Venerable Mass of McGowan provides but more stamina.

Thanks for that confirmation, I guess I'm proven wrong

Doesn't matter anyways I have 2 of em already.

P.S. Shadowfang and many more on sale on Draenor http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f19/wts-stuff-38889/index4.html#post569882

 

[Mocha]

knowing these numbers wont make u a better twink just pwn and use sap

Ask curley, sneaky and mesi. If you don't have gloomshroud and ToV you're a bad twink and not even worthy of being deemed a "real twink" because that's more important than CC and actually playing rogue while using your head.

It's all about big numbers on damage charts and what curley says is "bis", not kicking heals or anything.

 

[Arkant]

Ask curley, sneaky and mesi. If you don't have gloomshroud and ToV you're a bad twink and not even worthy of being deemed a "real twink" because that's more important than CC and actually playing rogue while using your head.

It's all about big numbers on damage charts and what curley says is "bis", not kicking heals or anything.

Because getting bis items prevents you from playing good, right?

 

[saxxon]

hone ur twink skills

 

[Lil Throwed]

Is there honestly any reason we should trust a guide author if he's not BiS..?

 

[Aintabanka]

If you're going to lock the thread about fang > loom, You probably should lock this one too, silly modz.

 

[Dorigon]

if u dont have a gloomshroud ur shit

 

[Rithonuwy]

I agree with mocha, i was shittin on rogues when i came back from a long break and i didnt have any looms, just depends on ur skill cap. I sap like a baws

 

[Sneaky]

Ask curley, sneaky and mesi. If you don't have gloomshroud and ToV you're a bad twink and not even worthy of being deemed a "real twink" because that's more important than CC and actually playing rogue while using your head.

It's all about big numbers on damage charts and what curley says is "bis", not kicking heals or anything.

How did my name get in that post of yours? If you have a problem with me, spit it out. Don't throw petty jabs here and there, like you're afraid of something.

Edit: As I've stated before, I'm probably the least geared dual Shadowfang rogue out there. I'm still wearing my set from Cata. You putting my name in that post clearly shows you have some personal vendetta against me.

 

[Dorigon]

How did my name get in that post of yours? If you have a problem with me, spit it out. Don't throw petty jabs here and there, like you're afraid of something.

Edit: As I've stated before, I'm probably the least geared dual Shadowfang rogue out there. I'm still wearing my set from Cata. You putting my name in that post clearly shows you have some personal vendetta against me.

He is certainly referring to your confusion over his fishing hat and crusader enchant.

 

[CIHC]

le sigh, another topic horribly derailed.