Rogue Race; Alliance.

Earlwing said:
making assumptions? I've played with him before and I know he's an outstanding player. I was just curious about his choice in cloaks. I enjoy discussing alternate gear, and would like to hear what people have to say about their builds.
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thanks dude.

i was using the stam/resil gear when i logged out because i was dueling. i have a few sets, i normally prefer to stack agi without weapon chain. i've never dropped and efc from an auto attack or poison proc. it's always an ambush or 5 point evis, so i try to make those numbers as high as possible.

my stat priorities are

yellow cap > agi > crit
 
Earlwing said:
Thanks Sneaky ^-^ I guess I'll go NE to avoid the dreadful starting zones for worgen/pandas. If I find myself devoted enough, I'll just race change to worgen eventually. I've already got my mcgowans enchanted with agi, but my dal'rends has crusader (don't ask :p). There wouldn't be any downside to putting the weapon chain on Dal'rend's MH, so I don't have to overwrite my current chants, right? And, cobrahns VS. Lynx? I play Cobrahn's at 20 because the crit is more valuable with the lack of enchants... Not sure how it applies here, though. Don't want to sound like I'm just asking questions that I could have read in guides (not reading Curley's), I'd rather hear multiple opinions, and then try both out when I get geared. Looking forward to gulching with players above the average skill level of the F2P bracket. I'm getting a little sick of reading "EFC IS ABOVE TUNNEL I CAN'T HIT HIM".
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Mocha’s 19 Rogue Guide | Twinking

Few things.

I run with my favorite set 90% of the time.. (crusader mh) something about 20-40 procs a game with SnD makes me love it. I also run subterfuge because I play D and I don't really whore returns any more like I did in Cata.

What I use isn't "bis" but I do fine anyways and it's more fun for me so use what gear that you want... gear doesn't matter as much as it did in Cata... feels like bc gearing where you can just throw together a set that you like and still be viable.

PM me if you have any questions.

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Gearing for BURST in a time like this is simply idiotic and unviable. Good luck bursting down 3000 hp resto druids along with their healers before moonfire dots you down.
 
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Mocha said:
Mocha’s 19 Rogue Guide | Twinking

Few things.

I run with my favorite set 90% of the time.. (crusader mh) something about 20-40 procs a game with SnD makes me love it. I also run subterfuge because I play D and I don't really whore returns any more like I did in Cata.

What I use isn't "bis" but I do fine anyways and it's more fun for me so use what gear that you want... gear doesn't matter as much as it did in Cata... feels like bc gearing where you can just throw together a set that you like and still be viable.

PM me if you have any questions.

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Gearing for BURST in a time like this is simply idiotic and unviable. Good luck bursting down 3000 hp resto druids along with their healers before moonfire dots you down.
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so gear however you want...but don't gear for damage that's stupid because fc's have high hp. yeah that makes sense.

honestly, i don't know what's happened to you lately. you've really fallen off and your attitude has been complete shit.
 
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danny glover said:
so gear however you want...but don't gear for damage that's stupid because fc's have high hp. yeah that makes sense.

honestly, i don't know what's happened to you lately. you've really fallen off and your attitude has been complete shit.
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I know right.
 
Dear Curley,
Interesting opinion Bruh
 
Curley said:
I know right.
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my point was you don't kill an EFC by bursting him. You kill the EFC by ccing his heals. Chances are you won't be 1v2+ing a flag return so leave most of the damage up to the rest of your offense since you are one of the few classes with an interrupt.

With this mindset it is ridiculous to go for burst. Then again, you complain every time you don't get credit for a return. Open your eyes... rogues aren't burst bots made for getting returns like they were in Cata. You need to accept that. I mean hell I've basically stopped going for returns because I am what is called a Warsong rogue and I typically play both sides of the flag. I don't tunnel returns for the WSG charts like you do Curley. I don't do that because I don't have an ego like you do. I don't give a shit who gets the return, just as long as we return the flag. Rogues have gone back for the most part to how they were in BC and you need to accept that it isn't Cata any more.
 
Mocha said:
my point was you don't kill an EFC by bursting him. You kill the EFC by ccing his heals. Chances are you won't be 1v2+ing a flag return so leave most of the damage up to the rest of your offense since you are one of the few classes with an interrupt.

With this mindset it is ridiculous to go for burst. Then again, you complain every time you don't get credit for a return. Open your eyes... rogues aren't burst bots made for getting returns like they were in Cata. You need to accept that. I mean hell I've basically stopped going for returns because I am what is called a Warsong rogue and I typically play both sides of the flag. I don't tunnel returns for the WSG charts like you do Curley. I don't do that because I don't have an ego like you do. I don't give a shit who gets the return, just as long as we return the flag. Rogues have gone back for the most part to how they were in BC and you need to accept that it isn't CaKta any more.
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Mocha, you're lookin at it all wrong. We're rogues. Teamwork isn't a thing for us! Why would we want to help our team out when they're being camped when we could be getting a RETURN!

Edit: it just occurred to me that sarcasm cannot be detected over the Internet. Oh, and Nelfs are fun
 
lmfao
 
Earlwing said:
Thanks Sneaky ^-^ I guess I'll go NE to avoid the dreadful starting zones for worgen/pandas. If I find myself devoted enough, I'll just race change to worgen eventually. I've already got my mcgowans enchanted with agi, but my dal'rends has crusader (don't ask :p). There wouldn't be any downside to putting the weapon chain on Dal'rend's MH, so I don't have to overwrite my current chants, right? And, cobrahns VS. Lynx? I play Cobrahn's at 20 because the crit is more valuable with the lack of enchants... Not sure how it applies here, though. Don't want to sound like I'm just asking questions that I could have read in guides (not reading Curley's), I'd rather hear multiple opinions, and then try both out when I get geared. Looking forward to gulching with players above the average skill level of the F2P bracket. I'm getting a little sick of reading "EFC IS ABOVE TUNNEL I CAN'T HIT HIM".
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Considering pyrium weapon chain and 15 agi are both passive enchants (i.e. they are not proc based), there is no harm in putting it in your MH.

Also agi>crit because sub rogues get 30% more benefit from agility and it's an awesome stat really (2 AP, crit, dodge). I'd only go for crit in situations where the trade-off is actually worth it (like 8 crit over 4 agi). I'd really advise going worgen since you're coming from the F2P bracket where mobility isn't too much of an issue, but it's up to you.
 
Curley said:
What r u on about?
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I said it was an interesting opinion you had as to why you are BiS, I simply disagree. I think the extra damage is worth 1-2% less crit as crit is truly an unreliable stat, especially when its only 1-2% difference. I think that with slice and dice it's better to have more overall damage because no matter what you do you will always see that extra damage, crit or not, and that shit adds up.
 
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