Best specs to go in 5.0.4

going for full haste gear for energy regen, thistle tea+lifeblood subterfuge build. 3 or 4 ambushes wats up
 
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-assa-spec seems to be the way to go due to the extra 20 energy total
-one point in subterfuge
-daggers for mut's
-ability to ambush twice

since instant poison is gone and rogues can't afford to wait on deadly poison ticks, going old school and using +4 sharpening stones may be best with the possibility of using +5 weapon damage enchant on MH weapon to increase max opening damage

putting a point in shadowfocus would give a free ambush/mut, followed by two mut's
 
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won't be able to maintain ToT for slice and dice, we had SnD in 19 bracket years ago, wasn't worth using then

rogues were bursty at start of CATA, then blizz nerfed the AMB to the point it was oh rogue...start subroutine allocation error 6 kite program. but at least rogues had ShS, sprint, and gouge

if in MOP rogues can wipe players with 2 AMB followed by a Evis, nerfs will follow and rogues openers will be weak and reveal them to be feared/stunned/rooted//kited....no ShS, sprint, and gouge
 
I think afflic will be very good, especially in a premade, full dots + harvest life = win.

IF only demo was damage was viable.

I didn't think demo damage was viable either at first, but if you line your abilities up and use lifeblood effectively, it's pretty good.

Lifeblood -> corruption -> double hand of guldan -> meta -> sbolt spam (with imp fast casting for 100s) bursts people down pretty quickly.

It is also the most mobile spec by far, being able to leap every 10sec, and has more utility than other specs.

The more I think about it, all three lock specs should be pretty good.
 
I'm prob going to be Sub specced into Sub... Hemo crits for mid 300s (not counting the dot)..... I'll also be going into haste / survivability gear since burst shouldn't be more important than CC. Bombs + Kick on heals is more effective than curley's burst spamming abilities.

Also I'm pretty convinced that rogues will now be more effective sitting on D with the EFC as opposed to being on O. Evasion to dodge hunters, hemo dot to make it impossible for rogues on offense to restealth, kick / engineering bombs. I'm pretty convinced that bombs will be way more beneficial than the crit obtained from skinning.
 
I might give Ret a bit of a go again and switch back to Holy if I'm not liking what I'm seeing. Kind of sucks when one spec leaves you with a capped MP versus a healy spec that is like 4x the MP.
 
I'm going to be holy and resto on all my characters probably, ha gl killing me now. :p
 
Holy pally:

130% movement speed
Holy Shock crits on PvP enemies for 750
Heals noncrit for 1100, crit for 2200.

I'd say they'll be more than decent... in fact last I checked they did more dps than ret or prot.
800+ Holy Shock damage actually.
 

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