Why do you play 19's?

Sneaky

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As most of us know, 19's have their in's and out's, and it's agreed by many that the bracket has fallen into a rather depressed state. Many old friends have departed from this bracket, while others remain. Most of us have undoubtedly made new friends as well, whether they are "cata-babies" or simply people we had never gotten the chance to meet. And with friends comes enemies -- most twinks play with and against people who they dislike, whether it be for personal issues relative to the virtual world or for heinous crimes against the noble citizens of the bracket.


And although it would seem that some of the larger players in the bracket are dispassionate, in majority of the population there is a sense of honor. Whether it be abstinence from GY farming and exploits, or allegiance to one's guild or faction. There even exist people who would deem themselves pious twinks in a microcosm where sinners undoubtedly exist. Nearly every game is subtly filled with the culture and love-hate relationships that have been built over time in the community. Shamefully enough, some have lost their sense of honor and instead vaguely attach themselves to titles; the result is a dubious persona, hanging his mouth where the soup drips. What is their reason for being a part of this close-knitted community, where everyone will see them for who they are and remember it? On this point, however, we must bear in the mind the fact that twinks have a history of notoriety. In the days of Vanilla and Burning Crusade, twinks were hated by many for ruining battlegrounds by taking advantage of those who were less prepared.


Today, our idea of what a twink is has evolved. Most of us who did those very actions no longer find it enjoyable -- instead we find enjoyment in a challenge, not the lack of competition which was experienced before. Contrary to this, twinks are still known by many who are not apart of our community as unmerciful savages who take advantage of levelers. Which is the real twink? That agreed upon by a larger population, or the metamorphosed twinking in which we strive to have balanced, competitive games? Perhaps as time went on, and things changed, we transitioned unknowingly into a community whose ideas became different but still attached themselves to the same name tag. On this note, maybe the title "tink" truly would be a more accurate representation, as we have deviated from our original path...



The question remains. Why do you play 19's, despite its many downfalls? What do you expect from MoP and how do you expect 19's to change? What would make you leave, if the downfalls of Cataclysm haven't?
 
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Because I enjoy being raped in the face by groups of hunters with pocket heals. What more to life is there?

I honestly can't think of anything making me quit the 19 bracket, I've tried to before, but I keep coming back to it.
 
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I play to prove that resto drood healing can be viable

MoP is gonna be interesting I guess... I kinda quit for two months because its Summer and Summer makes the pursuit of females>wow addiction. With Fall comes my return to thge World of Warcraft and I doubt I would ever quit the bracket.
 
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I Play because i love the bracket in general and have loved it for almost 7 years seeing as i have 270 days on my beloved Huntard that everyone hates </3, but i've had my quit fits and rages but i always find my way back to this bracket. - Alexandriya
 
I continue to play 19s because of the players I surround myself with in my guild. I've had the pleasure of playing with such wonderful players since I started playing back in '06. If it wasn't for them I would have quit a long time ago and wouldn't have had the continued success they have blessed me with.

I don't know what to expect in MoP really. Right now it looks pretty promising. Only time will tell.

When I do decide to leave this game, it won't be because of something Blizzard does. It will be because of something else. Unless they remove the 19 bracket of course.
 
Ironically enough, as much as I disagree with a lot of the ways he does things in the 19 bracket - Pizza and his guild are responsible for getting me into 19s and twinking in general. Not directly responsible though, just the influence behind it.

I started on Uldum and got attracted to pvp pretty quickly after learning to play the game. I would hang out in the battlemaster area to queue battlegrounds while I was leveling my original rogue, and would always see players from Pizza Hut. I asked one them why they were always there, and why they never got to higher levels and they told me they were twinks. That set off my curiosity and I learned about twinks. I noticed that twinks were also the players that were often kicking my face in while leveling through battlegrounds, and I decided I wanted to make one too. I play 19s because it's the most populated twink bracket left and because 29s and 39s are mostly dead except for a few days a week, days on which I'm usually working.

I play because twink brackets offer competition in pug games that you just can't find at max level. The player base is a lot more skilled overall and it makes games a lot better and more fun, except when the aforementioned players are helping to ruin that fun and competition.
 
When I do decide to leave this game, it won't be because of something Blizzard does. It will be because of something else. Unless they remove the 19 bracket of course.
There are so many comments I could make in respects to this. I play 19s simply because I have played through the dull moments of wotlk, the glorious days of BC and I have even played through the plagued and beaten cataclysm and I will look back in MoP and say, I can't believe one kid almost ruined an entire community for good.

I've been a 19 twinker since the first few days of my subscription 7 years ago and I'm not going anywhere. Even if we do advance in the terrible direction that we have headed towards in the past year of countless gy farming... Why would one put up with this terrible display of "sportsmanship" and "consideration"?

Because the person who single-handedly drove others to the point where they had no choice but to quit 19s forever was once the laughing stock of Burning Blade as a player not even worthy of our C team.

Sure 19s were amazing back in BC, but even in the terrible games there's always something fun to do (unless you are afkd out by Pizza and the rest of Waw Tawent). Whether it be glitching the flag out of the map to watch them struggle for that last remaining HK or simply have a dance party on the other side of the map until their humanoid tracking reveals your location, there's always some candlelight to be found in complete darkness.

I'm excited for MoP for so many reasons. The less experienced PvPers who believe that the only way to kill something is to burst through it will find themselves on a very long road where as the more experienced ones (the few that are left) will shine simply because it may be the time for CC once again instead of "burst it until it dies". Damage looks much more balanced, movement looks more restricted for rogues, healers don't go oom and noncrit for the amount of a LoH. How will the less experienced players ever win a premade? They simply won't. They will be so stuck in the ways of "burst it till it dies" that they will not even consider that CC is how games are won before their team has been 3 capped.

I am a leader of the 19s community simply because I have tremendous amounts of experience, more than most and I simply know that what's been going on is absolutely disgusting... the community is messed up as a result of the grinding for their "of The Horde" titles that everyone will have in a month (since hks are account wide)

I'm well aware that my reminiscing on the past has earned me the "Lost in '06" title here on these forums and I'm very excited to see what my words will stir up deep within yourselves (typically as a result of how atypical my views are, however sickening that fact is to face)

Trolls will be trolls, C team players will be C team players and the leaders who actually care for the community and not one bit about themselves or their images will be talked down on by the "cool" kids.

Great read Sneaky, glad to see others choosing to make the most out of these forums.
 
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I'll just start from the beginning.

When I first started playing WoW was when WoLK was released. I wanted to try out the battlegrounds because I enjoyed watching my sister PvP in her lv70 during BC. I was a lv13 mage at that time, and I was looking at all them people with over 1k health, and mine was at around 300. After looking around at how and what people did, I had decided to start Heavenknight. At first people hated me for being undergeared, and nobody told me about websites, so I looked around and found Wowwiki. After I had finally gotten his Seal of Wrynn, and the majority of the gear that would get me to 1k health, however, Blizzard came in with the XP-Off battlegrounds. I only got a chance to pvp with him in like 13-14 battlegrounds before that, and I never got to try out my new gear in PvP.

Rest of the story in case you still care:
I then decided to level a hunter to level 80, but my bank money started running short. I deleted Gimmeabow, my hunter, at 61, after finally getting a corehound pet. I then started a shaman, Naturalcasts. I stopped at level 54 when my was out of money. I ended up coming back when Cata expansion came out to finish out where I left off. I leveled my shaman to 85, and started gearing up Heavenknight. He started out without BoAs, and the green-tinted goggles, like the old twinks used to wear. I didn't have access to BoAs until patch 4.1 came out, when I just started grinding justice points.
 
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To be completely honest, the most fun in the bracket i've ever had, must have been pizza furious grind to 250k hks back in december. It made games not fun competition wise, but survival and such. I was actually just getting back into the bracket from an idk 3-4 year break in the midst of that, and I must say the rare fun game like those compel me to stay.
 
There are so many comments I could make in respects to this. I play 19s simply because I have played through the dull moments of wotlk, the glorious days of BC and I have even played through the plagued and beaten cataclysm and I will look back in MoP and say, I can't believe one kid almost ruined an entire community for good.

I've been a 19 twinker since the first few days of my subscription 7 years ago and I'm not going anywhere. Even if we do advance in the terrible direction that we have headed towards in the past year of countless gy farming... Why would one put up with this terrible display of "sportsmanship" and "consideration"?

Because the person who single-handedly drove others to the point where they had no choice but to quit 19s forever was once the laughing stock of Burning Blade as a player not even worthy of our C team.

Sure 19s were amazing back in BC, but even in the terrible games there's always something fun to do (unless you are afkd out by Pizza and the rest of Waw Tawent). Whether it be glitching the flag out of the map to watch them struggle for that last remaining HK or simply have a dance party on the other side of the map until their humanoid tracking reveals your location, there's always some candlelight to be found in complete darkness.

I'm excited for MoP for so many reasons. The less experienced PvPers who believe that the only way to kill something is to burst through it will find themselves on a very long road where as the more experienced ones (the few that are left) will shine simply because it may be the time for CC once again instead of "burst it until it dies". Damage looks much more balanced, movement looks more restricted for rogues, healers don't go oom and noncrit for the amount of a LoH. How will the less experienced players ever win a premade? They simply won't. They will be so stuck in the ways of "burst it till it dies" that they will not even consider that CC is how games are won before their team has been 3 capped.

I am a leader of the 19s community simply because I have tremendous amounts of experience, more than most and I simply know that what's been going on is absolutely disgusting... the community is messed up as a result of the grinding for their "of The Horde" titles that everyone will have in a month (since hks are account wide)

I'm well aware that my reminiscing on the past has earned me the "Lost in '06" title here on these forums and I'm very excited to see what my words will stir up deep within yourselves (typically as a result of how atypical my views are, however sickening that fact is to face)

Trolls will be trolls, C team players will be C team players and the leaders who actually care for the community and not one bit about themselves or their images will be talked down on by the "cool" kids.

Great read Sneaky, glad to see others choosing to make the most out of these forums.

Leave it to mocha to post something to long for me to read, meh i'l break it up into chunks :)
 
It takes like 2 minutes to read his post, not very hard considering he uses paragraphs.
 
because i wanted 2 fiery weapons and a fishing hat on my rogue and that led to me becoming the Sergeant i am today


Or, rather than enduring that long grind to 60, I had stumbled upon what I ultimately wanted out of the game and to my surprise at a much lower level than I had anticipated. PvP. I had already arrived and rivalries were local, so I joined up with a Horde guild and the rest is history. The main thing that keeps me going back is activity and it's a lot more appealing than endgame due to the fact that there's no real [gear] grind or ladder-aspect. You can peak at a capped level and that's fine with me.
 

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