Few questions, help much appreciated

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_Arkant_ said:
It is a fact that the majority of Aggramar and Aszune thinks that people should only fight inside the two bases and not further than 50 yards from either flag.
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that might be the dumbest shit ive ever read on forums. I remember Lethal Synergy wanted to premade in this fashion... no fighting midfield, just offense vs. defense. It was retarded. Wsg should be fought full field with no restrictions. It adds a lot more strategy, and, thus, room for error to the game.
 
Dramatized said:
yeah ofc that's correct

but the problem is that the french queues 8+ people that's also on vent with eachother (iirc) - often atleast 3 healers (often paladins) and 3 hunters. For a game like that to be competative it would require the opposing team to atleast get 5+ that's BiS geared players and knows how to play. From my experience you're awfully lucky if half your team is filled with decent geared- and skilled people, it's certainly nothing that occurs every BG.

But if french faces a horde team consisting of people that knows what to do it is most likely going to be a competative one or even 3-0 to horde lol
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this, a thousand times this, tell me how to counter a premade stacking OP classes and using vent and i'll give it a go.
 
_Arkant_ said:
Be a decent player, play with decent players. It's not that hard.
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so i need to be in a premade every single game? you may only like queuing in a group and playing the winning faction, but people with average sized penis's dont need to compensate in wow for there short comings irl. and dont tell me you dont only play the winning faction because you plainly do.
 
we are having this same issue on the US side of things. guilds such as train cow and noodle arms and waw tawent que with extremely skilled players, operating on extremely overpowered classes. I will get into a game on my resto druid (a class I play to counter this trend) and see that the opposing team has 3 of the best hunters in our bracket, and 2 of the best holy paladins. Next I check my own team, crossing my fingers that my teammates are close to this caliber / comp setup. Although sometimes I'll get lucky with a good team, chances are we have FTPs or the good players are playing imbalanced classes. Unfortunately there really isnt anything to do about this, because if you decide to que with hunters and healers, you are just feeding into this vicious cycle. It is for this reason we can only look forward to mop when (hopefully) the op-ness will be on the healing side (shamans, rdruids) instead of the dps side (current hunters/rogues).
 
Drugs said:
we are having this same issue on the US side of things. guilds such as train cow and noodle arms and waw tawent que with extremely skilled players, operating on extremely overpowered classes. I will get into a game on my resto druid (a class I play to counter this trend) and see that the opposing team has 3 of the best hunters in our bracket, and 2 of the best holy paladins. Next I check my own team, crossing my fingers that my teammates are close to this caliber / comp setup. Although sometimes I'll get lucky with a good team, chances are we have FTPs or the good players are playing imbalanced classes. Unfortunately there really isnt anything to do about this, because if you decide to que with hunters and healers, you are just feeding into this vicious cycle. It is for this reason we can only look forward to mop when (hopefully) the op-ness will be on the healing side (shamans, rdruids) instead of the dps side (current hunters/rogues).
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but speaking from a EU side of things the people who do it as just as many alli twinks as they do horde.
 
Drugs said:
we are having this same issue on the US side of things. guilds such as train cow and noodle arms and waw tawent que with extremely skilled players, operating on extremely overpowered classes. I will get into a game on my resto druid (a class I play to counter this trend) and see that the opposing team has 3 of the best hunters in our bracket, and 2 of the best holy paladins. Next I check my own team, crossing my fingers that my teammates are close to this caliber / comp setup. Although sometimes I'll get lucky with a good team, chances are we have FTPs or the good players are playing imbalanced classes. Unfortunately there really isnt anything to do about this, because if you decide to que with hunters and healers, you are just feeding into this vicious cycle. It is for this reason we can only look forward to mop when (hopefully) the op-ness will be on the healing side (shamans, rdruids) instead of the dps side (current hunters/rogues).
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As I am playing both sides, you can't compare US and EU. Most US premades aren't beatable (by PuGs) while most EU premades would be, if people would actually try.
droodelf said:
so i need to be in a premade every single game? you may only like queuing in a group and playing the winning faction, but people with average sized penis's dont need to compensate in wow for there short comings irl. and dont tell me you dont only play the winning faction because you plainly do.
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Do you enjoy playing with good or bad players? If everyone stopped being lazy and just grouped up with decent players we'd have way more competitive games.
 
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interesting people dont try... why else would they que for wsg!
 
_Arkant_ said:
As I am playing both sides, you can't compare US and EU. Most US premades aren't beatable (by PuGs) while most EU premades would be, if people would actually try.
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yes, but only if you have the luck to get in a decent group, otherwise you'll get raped while 800hp rogues wait to shs ambush, you know, like you but with less health.
 
droodelf said:
but speaking from a EU side of things the people who do it as just as many alli twinks as they do horde.
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right. the same thing happens on US though. most waw tawent players have alliance twinks, as most noodle arms / train cow players have horde twinks. it is thus up to them to help try and keep games balanced by logging over the the side that needs help. as mind boggling as it is, however, most of the dbags dont even care and just stay on the winning side... it is beyond me why they would prefer romping around and never dying, rather than contributing to competitive gameplay... sigh
 
Drugs said:
right. the same thing happens on US though. most waw tawent players have alliance twinks, as most noodle arms / train cow players have horde twinks. it is thus up to them to help try and keep games balanced by logging over the the side that needs help. as mind boggling as it is, however, most of the dbags dont even care and just stay on the winning side... it is beyond me why they would prefer romping around and never dying, rather than contributing to competitive gameplay... sigh
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this is the point i'm trying to make, i could just as easily log horde and win.
 
_Arkant_ said:
Do you enjoy playing with good or bad players? If everyone stopped being lazy and just grouped up with decent players we'd have way more competitive games.
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if it was as easy as that we'd have premades every night, wouldn't we.
 
Rofl at the derailing of this thread... NP though, makes for an interesting read waiting for pops ;)

Protip for facing 10-man french premade: Get your realID friends to group que with you and outplay the french. It's not like alliance frenchies are the most skilled players in this bracket...
 
droodelf said:
if it was as easy as that we'd have premades every night, wouldn't we.
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It is that easy. Get some realID's, queue up with those people. It is a multiplayer game after all, and what kind of multiplayer game would it be if you were forced to play with random people instead of the ones you enjoy playing with. I am pretty sure the majority of the decent players in both EU and US could queue as 5 if they wanted to. And this would lead to more competitive games overall.
 
_Arkant_ said:
It is that easy. Get some realID's, queue up with those people. It is a multiplayer game after all, and what kind of multiplayer game would it be if you were forced to play with random people instead of the ones you enjoy playing with. I am pretty sure the majority of the decent players in both EU and US could queue as 5 if they wanted to. And this would lead to more competitive games overall.
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Why don't you queue with freinds then? :) Instead of soloqueuing :)

Also, french premade isn't unbeatable, but you have to either get lucky with decent geared and skilled people or queue with freinds/guild period
 
_Arkant_ said:
It is that easy. Get some realID's, queue up with those people. It is a multiplayer game after all, and what kind of multiplayer game would it be if you were forced to play with random people instead of the ones you enjoy playing with. I am pretty sure the majority of the decent players in both EU and US could queue as 5 if they wanted to. And this would lead to more competitive games overall.
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you're not interested in competitive games...

1. you log side to side for a win
2. you wouldn't play semi premades unless you know you was facing one
3. you're a known supporter on gy containment (in my day it was called farming but w/e)
4. you follow the decent players round like a lost puppy
5. you're a virgin and winning wsg makes you feel like a man( and i use the term man loosely)

so no, no you ain't interested in competitive games. i'll let you carry on speaking for the rest of us now, i'm bored of you. ;)
 
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droodelf said:
you're not interested in competitive games...

1. you log side to side for a win
2. you wouldn't play semi premades unless you know you was facing one
3. you're a known supporter on gy containment (in my day it was called farming but w/e)
4. you follow the decent players round like a lost puppy
5. you're a virgin and winning wsg makes you feel like a man( and i use the term man loosely)

so no, no you ain't interested in competitive games. i'll let you carry on speaking for the rest of us now, i'm bored of you. ;)
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1. No.
2. Doesn't this mean that I am actually interested in competitive games because I only queue with semi premades to queue into other semi premades?
3. Yes, I am. And you still don't understand the difference.
4. There are hardly any decent players to follow around.
5. No.

You are lost as fuck while also being as pathetic as a person could be.
 
droodelf said:
you're not interested in competitive games...

1. you log side to side for a win
2. you wouldn't play semi premades unless you know you was facing one
3. you're a known supporter on gy containment (in my day it was called farming but w/e)
4. you follow the decent players round like a lost puppy
5. you're a virgin and winning wsg makes you feel like a man( and i use the term man loosely)

so no, no you ain't interested in competitive games. i'll let you carry on speaking for the rest of us now, i'm bored of you. ;)
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It's sad that you bring lies to a public forum.
 
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