WSG AP premade vs 4man Norgannon + PuG (with one lvl 24) [VIDEO]

[DubbsBegins]

EDIT : (I dont know how to edit titles) This WSG was
Full AP premade vs 4 Norgannon premade + 3 lvl 24 premade + 3 PuGs

This is AP premade vs 4man Norgannon + PuG recorded in July 5th. Sorry for all the big cuts. I dont record full bgs anymore because it takes up too much space. I did put every recorded clips in the video. This was the best game i had in a while (aside from double/tripple/quadruple rogue play. Yes, its too much fun) I actually had another AP premade vs 4man Norgannon just now, like 30 mins ago and we (4man Norgannon) were all rogues. AP beat us by 3 - 0. lol painful. But I didnt record the footage because we had a pretty bad PuG and didnt match AP premade at all. Good game AP!
(copy pasted from YouTube description)

[F2P WoW] AP premade vs 4man Norgannon + PuG [BONUS] - YouTube

 

[Sweetluvin]

Noice

 

[Zorglub]

you aren't being honest here dubbs
this was a 4man premade from Norgannon + 3man 24 premade from another server + 3 more pugs
I remember this game, it was 2-3 days ago.
you beat us mostly cause of those 24's tbh but it was a good game

we can't check names from videos since its a low quality one and letters aren't recognizable but I remember telling folks to focus 24's whenever we can
idk if i took a SS, will have to check home
I also wrote about this bg in a post the day after

here it is ->

Latest update ->
in a full 10man WSG AP premade with (surprisingly) 4 hunters we have ppl (like 6-7/10) that DO NOT know that its of utmost importance to kill EFC while he is in middle.
Or to even try to get to him
EFC outrunned them like every single time
Not to mention that all ignored that single priest healer EFC had with him.

I /facepalmed irl when time ran out and we lost 1-2 in caps....

We played vs 4 (or was it 5?) folks premade from Norgannon (dubbs was in it as well) and a 3x24 premade from some other server
And apart from that, we had 0 stelthers while they had feral, 20 and 24 rogue which made our defense ~impossible

all of this ofc wouldn't matter if our team wasn't all mid-fighters
Folks that I know that were in this bg are hida and twinko
Rest were all new players who obv don't have a clue what to do in WSG.

@ one point in game I though I play with inoobupro only multiplied by 4-5...

Edit: I would like it if you could replace the info of video in which you are stating that you had only 1 24 in pug since both of us know thats not true

 

[DubbsBegins]

you aren't being honest here dubbs
this was a 4man premade from Norgannon + 3man 24 premade from another server + 3 more pugs
I remember this game, it was 2-3 days ago.
you beat us mostly cause of those 24's tbh but it was a good game

we can't check names from videos since its a low quality one and letters aren't recognizable but I remember telling folks to focus 24's whenever we can
idk if i took a SS, will have to check home
I also wrote about this bg in a post the day after

here it is ->




Edit: I would like it if you could replace the info of video in which you are stating that you had only 1 24 in pug since both of us know thats not true

I wasnt trying to lie about having one lvl 24. Because honestly, i really didnt know there was two other lvl 24s. I didnt even see the impact of having them. You said you guys lost because of lvl 24s. Well, i dont think thats the truth is it? I just searched the armory of these lvl 24s. ( I can read the names just fine from the video)

Mage Insanemagee @ Caelestrasz - Game Guide - World of Warcraft
Shammy Treeplox @ Caelestrasz - Game Guide - World of Warcraft
these two were legit twinks i understand. But that mage... was a mage and was hardly any better than F2P mages even with those gears (he isnt fully geared) and cant beat hunters anyway
but this rogue Thesprint @ Caelestrasz - Game Guide - World of Warcraft
didnt even do anything in the game.

EDIT: kinda makes me unsatisfied by you saying lvl 24s were the reason because your mighty hunters had 32 killing blows (50k dmg) and 22 for the other hunter (30k dmg). the mage had 7 with 9 deaths with 3k damage. the rogue had 4 killing blows with 3 deaths with 8k damage. Dont blame lvl 24s just admit your defeat

so to be honest, the shaman was the only one doing things in the game.
You guys lost because you guys didnt work together too well and lvl 24s werent a issue. Like you said in the comment, they are new and whatnot.
You guys had better team with
4 healers , 2 hunters, 2 pallys, warrior and bal druid.
We only had one healer and that makes a huge difference.

 

[wut]

I cant see much merit with 3x24s tbh

 

[kablam]

I cant see much merit with 3x24s tbh

Honestly two of those 24s are probably outgeared by most half-decent 20s and probably even worse players because they went 24 (Not saying 24s are by default worse players than 20. Just guessing that they are judging by the lack of time and money they put into their toons.) Anyway I haven't watched the video but I'm sure it was a good game and nothing to get to defensive/serious about. Obviously partial pugmade vs pugmades will be unblanced due to the randomness of pugs. I'm sure no one here, especially dubbs, thinks they're the best tink worldwide when they win a 5v5.

 

[SallyG]

Why do people 'peen so much about killing blows and damage?

Who cares how much damage a player did or didn't do? If he was always in the wrong place at the wrong time, he would be just as good replaced by someone else.

If the mighty low damagers always defend and cc appropriately and you don't die in part because of it... Well they are more valuable to your team than a mid fielder ever could be.

I watched some of the video and what I saw was shitty game Horde side. It looked like a PuG to me.

Also to note, just because people are grouped doesn't mean it's a good team. Often times people will type in the channel "who wants to queue BGs" and they group up. There is no screening to ensure you know how to play...

Thanks for posting yet another game of you beating a PuG.

 

[TwinkO]

24 where bad, the problem on Horde side was a lot of midfield fight and slow offense movement to EFC, only Morgana was in time, and if not for Hida we'd lose faster. Plus I was kinda useless in prot. ><

Thanks for posting yet another game of you beating a PuG.

PuGmade still 100 time better then a PuG . ~_~

 

[Zorglub]

EDIT: kinda makes me unsatisfied by you saying lvl 24s were the reason because your mighty hunters had 32 killing blows (50k dmg) and 22 for the other hunter (30k dmg). the mage had 7 with 9 deaths with 3k damage. the rogue had 4 killing blows with 3 deaths with 8k damage. Dont blame lvl 24s just admit your defeat

so to be honest, the shaman was the only one doing things in the game.
You guys lost because you guys didnt work together too well and lvl 24s werent a issue. Like you said in the comment, they are new and whatnot.
You guys had better team with
4 healers , 2 hunters, 2 pallys, warrior and bal druid.
We only had one healer and that makes a huge difference.

Ok in my 1st post I said we lost mostly cause of 24's.
not entirely cause of them.
your 4man premade (helped with those 24's) obv was doing the job right

Like SallyG said, HK's mean jack shit if ppl don't play objectively
there were countless numbers of WSG's were we face 7-8 hunters, we get farmed (more or less) but manage to win cause of playing objectively

that rogue had 4 hk's - those HK's were either on FC or healer near FC.
our hunters had 60 hk's combined - that doesn't mean a thing since it was all mid farming and 3 of you stelthers could avoid them and go nuke EFC undetected

I would just like that you state in video that it was a combined premade of 4x20's from Nogrannon and a 3x24's from Caelestrasz, since that's what ally premade was like in that WSG, right?

I'm not looking for excuse why we lost
We lost cause of bad play (read mid-farming) and the fact that we faced 2 mini premades (pugmades?) that were communicating and objectively playing while we weren't
Even with baddies in pugmade, we still roll in usual WSG when going 10/10
it was a nice game and you eventually won, gj
looking forward to see you in bg again

P.S. I don't have to admit anything since we're not on the court

 

[Shikaari]

Sounds like people just like saying they beat Aerie Peak by any means possible. Jelly much?

 

[SallyG]

PuGmade still 100 time better then a PuG . ~_~

I beg to differ.

You can have the same trash in your PuGmade as in your PuG.

I'd rather PuG than premade simply so I don't need to know how bad some of the people in the channel are

Ignorance is bliss...

 

[danny glover]

Beating AP might have been a big deal in 2011.

 

[Ferro]

It's funny that you didn't record the whole bg because we wiped you guys when we met first time in field - later at least 2-3 24's joined you (and I think by the very end there were 3) and we had a good amount of low-gear on our side.

Anyway I'm glad you had fun but not good video material imo. 10 man AP H vs AP A would be good .

 

[Reltney]

Were these good players or were they the people who've spent a year staring at each other's characters in Goldshire?

 

[MarzRider]

Cool vid dubs. I enjoyed the watch and it was nice to see some Druid gameplay again

P.s don't worry AP pouch will be back soon ready to heal yall to victory (and scream at the mid farmers).

 

[DubbsBegins]

I watched some of the video and what I saw was shitty game Horde side. It looked like a PuG to me.

Also to note, just because people are grouped doesn't mean it's a good team. Often times people will type in the channel "who wants to queue BGs" and they group up. There is no screening to ensure you know how to play...

Thanks for posting yet another game of you beating a PuG.

you cant be serious.
when we premade (4man premade) do you think we are all like "morphene, nelrin, naridon come and no one else because you all suck" and "be prepared soldiers, we might fight AP premade"...
no.
we dont have too many people on but when we get a chance, we take everyone in the f2paddon to go premade with us. We do it for fun.
and did you think we communicate alot? not at all. I think you are thinking us as a full pro premade lolol not at all.
my point is, we are PuG just as much as they were but more because AP atleast know how to read and follow (some people on our side didnt even respond to me through the game and just got farmed silently

Ok in my 1st post I said we lost mostly cause of 24's.
not entirely cause of them.
your 4man premade (helped with those 24's) obv was doing the job right

Like SallyG said, HK's mean jack shit if ppl don't play objectively
there were countless numbers of WSG's were we face 7-8 hunters, we get farmed (more or less) but manage to win cause of playing objectively

that rogue had 4 hk's - those HK's were either on FC or healer near FC.
our hunters had 60 hk's combined - that doesn't mean a thing since it was all mid farming and 3 of you stelthers could avoid them and go nuke EFC undetected

I would just like that you state in video that it was a combined premade of 4x20's from Nogrannon and a 3x24's from Caelestrasz, since that's what ally premade was like in that WSG, right?

I'm not looking for excuse why we lost
We lost cause of bad play (read mid-farming) and the fact that we faced 2 mini premades (pugmades?) that were communicating and objectively playing while we weren't
Even with baddies in pugmade, we still roll in usual WSG when going 10/10
it was a nice game and you eventually won, gj
looking forward to see you in bg again

P.S. I don't have to admit anything since we're not on the court

excuse me i dont understand. first you said "we lost mostly cause of 24s" and then you go "4man Norg (helped with 24s) were doing the right thing" and then you go "We lost cause of bad play (mid farming)"
my only problem with your first comment was the fact that you thought lvl 24s were the major factor that made you lose. I provided the link of their armory which shows that they arent fully geared at all. (means less effective than most lvl24s and even geared F2Ps) If you still think lvl 24s were the major factor just because they are lvl 24, dont respond again because you know that Norgannon premade was playing objectively too. (I guess I wasnt doing anything while lvl 24s did all the hard work.)

and about the HKs. (to SallyG too)
your half farming (farming sometimes but not entirely) hunters (2 hunters) were disabling about 4 to 5 people on our side. If you can see, the fc groups were mostly me, Morphene, the 24 shammy. The EFC groups were Naridon, Nelrin (got farmed because he cant stealth) and 24rogue. The rest of our group got farmed because they cant run away from mad hunters. (or too new to the game to realize that they need to escape)
farming can be a strategy too you know. (2 hunters disabling 4 - 5 = 8 vs 5-6 = 8 wins)

I will change the name of the thread and description to include 3 24s
but also pretty disappointed that how you thought I was lying about 3 lvl 24s. I guess people think i am a cheap liar

Sounds like people just like saying they beat Aerie Peak by any means possible. Jelly much?

no we beat AP countless times pretty easily (thats why i didnt record or upload). I beat AP in AB as PuG with 2 norg (me and naridon as rogues) many times
I uploaded this one because it was by far the best game i had in a while.
jelly about Norg?

I beg to differ.

You can have the same trash in your PuGmade as in your PuG.

I'd rather PuG than premade simply so I don't need to know how bad some of the people in the channel are

Ignorance is bliss...

AP pugmade is 100 times better than pugs
everyone (or most. 99%) knows how to read and respond. How do you think they got into twinkinfo and got the addon? because they are not 10 yr olds that are scared to talk online (or whatever the reason is).
people in the channel is better than people outside of channel

It's funny that you didn't record the whole bg because we wiped you guys when we met first time in field - later at least 2-3 24's joined you (and I think by the very end there were 3) and we had a good amount of low-gear on our side.

Anyway I'm glad you had fun but not good video material imo. 10 man AP H vs AP A would be good .

Oh? ok. EVERYONE I GOT OWNED BY AP WHEN ME AND NARIDON MET 7 OF THEM. AND I AM TOO OF A PUSSY TO INCLUDE ME GETTING PWNED IN THE VIDEO SO I DELETED THE FOOTAGE.
does that make you happy?
seriously though, i didnt record. i press the record button when i am about to get into the action but when i get out numbered, i dont bother to record.

Were these good players or were they the people who've spent a year staring at each other's characters in Goldshire?

I dont think i understand what you mean -.- but i think you meant if these players were actually good and not just geared well (goldshire part) right?
but i dont know who you are talking to. If you mean Norgannon, yes we are pretty good i would say. If you mean AP, well ask them but most in AP H are pretty good.

Cool vid dubs. I enjoyed the watch and it was nice to see some Druid gameplay again

P.s don't worry AP pouch will be back soon ready to heal yall to victory (and scream at the mid farmers).

yay ending the longest comment ive ever made with a positive feedback!
thank you and i am glad you enjoyed it (most of my subscriber did too :3 but not in TI or AP lol)
I am not sure if druid pvp vids were better than my rogue vids. Druid took more skill and show more skill (i think) but rogue is just exciting to watch because we own 3-8 of horde as 2-3 rogues tell me what you think.

 

[youakim]

I like the part where AP's hunter disengaged into a wall

most in AP H are pretty good

This would have been true even a few months ago, but not now.

 

[DubbsBegins]

I like the part where AP's hunter disengaged into a wall

This would have been true even a few months ago, but not now.

i see. my bad
what I meant AP H is mostly good but im not sure about AP A.
i was thinking not too good since everyone was saying AP A is bad and whatnot but i guess not! go AP A!

 

[kablam]

I like the part where AP's hunter disengaged into a wall

This would have been true even a few months ago, but not now.

6:57! I've watched it 20 times!

 

[MarzRider]

I like both your Druid and rogue games dubs. Playing both of those classes makes it interesting to watch.Erronjust hating, don't get worked up over other people's opinions. They don't matter shit if u enjoyed making the video.Screw everyone.