Why risk it? Xp on games with exploiting twinks.

[Bankbeauty]

It is an exploit..



That said. It is risky, yes.



But what Ioe said is the main argument about balance in the 10-14 Exp-On.

A BoA geared toon, especially a hunter, can eat some of my most geared twink level 10.



This bracket (Exp-On),is filled with 2 types of players. The non geared one and the BoA user. A BoA geared toon, with enchanted BoA and some quest items literally eat any non twink, the same way a level 10-14 Twink would beat a non twink.



Is it cheap, I believe it is. It's boring and quite redundant if you ask me. But on the other hand, you can take a look at my stats in WSG and you'll see that my win ratio is around 58%. Which mean, a fully geared paladin level 10-11, with all GF, all enchant, Rum and BoA, isn't game-changing at all. Obviously I can eat a non geared char in few hits, true, but when I face a good BoA geared warrior, with a priest healer, it's surely not GG'd.





Obviously, some abuse this, and I personally have no respect for them. I won't come over here and clash on anyone, because it would be pointless, but some twink level 10-14, fully geared, playing some broken class is really cheap. I could see a twink hunter literally obliterate an enemy team. While a paladin can't do much about that.



To end this, leveling a toon to level 10 takes about 30-45min when you have BoA. If you make some Light leather bracers, get them enchanted with the cheap +7stam, then get some crafted boots +7stam, get some crafted gloves +10haste, then you can simply regear yourself over and over and be farming legit some non-twink.

When you think about that, it sounds freaking boring, same goes for a twink playing against non-twink.

 

[Lovestotwink]

i really dont care about lvl 10s never intrested me, but i'm sorry 70-74 is awfull you can be the best in the world and a mage will still kill you in 1 deep freeze.

hmm im going to have to disagree with your 70 argument. 70 mages are no where near as bad as a low lvl Hunter.

Actually you did but you edited your post. 8 minutes after I lashed out.

Wat?? nice try, L2p

why would i say you glitch then edit it. like im scarced of your wrath?......ROFL



oh look i edit this i wonder wat i really said?

 

[Josselinbeaumont]

It's an exploit. Please keep reporting theses players from Beats on fourteen to GMs, especially Podie, Skope, Healstrong, Turtlemonger, etc.



They banned several people in the Europe, they said time and time again that it was an exploit and they would sanction anyone doing it.



Yet I know for a fact that in the US Game Masters are not doing their job. Only you US players can to the bottom of that problem (I'm Europe player, thus powerless), that is if you hate exploiters...If US Game Masters say it's not an exploit, they are full of shit. I do not believe Podie didn't have a single ticket against him for this, in 6 month, I don't, something is fishy...

 

[l30t53dd6p]

So... using my gold to unlock xp, queue and lock xp before entering is exploiting? wtf??? Everyone can press some buttons and that is called an exploit? and people got banned for it because blizzard is to lazy to fix this???? ofc its exploiting in the common sense but not after what blizzard has done to the brackets and made 10-14 locked xp as dead as a.... dead whatever!



Exploit my azz... Lazy Blizzard is more correct. They brought it on themselves.. you must be a selfish jerk if you report people using this method. People just want to play their toons, just like anyone else.

 

[Pwnadin]

hmm im going to have to disagree with your 70 argument. 70 mages are no where near as bad as a low lvl Hunter.









Wat?? nice try, L2p

why would i say you glitch then edit it. like im scarced of your wrath?......ROFL



oh look i edit this i wonder wat i really said?

Because you were quick to flex your e-muscles before checking my armory. Not hard to figure out.

 

[KDM]

So... using my gold to unlock xp, queue and lock xp before entering is exploiting? wtf??? Everyone can press some buttons and that is called an exploit? and people got banned for it because blizzard is to lazy to fix this???? ofc its exploiting in the common sense but not after what blizzard has done to the brackets and made 10-14 locked xp as dead as a.... dead whatever!



Exploit my azz... Lazy Blizzard is more correct. They brought it on themselves.. you must be a selfish jerk if you report people using this method. People just want to play their toons, just like anyone else.

COULDNT AGREE MORE

 

[Pwnadin]

The more I think about this and read peoples thoughts, they're absolutely correct. But here is my disclaimer -- I will not be doing this. Level 10s don't have any other advantage over exp on players in the 10 bracket. level 10s with heirlooms in exp on will destroy players without... The only thing I would say if you are doing this, rid your gear with the inflated stats or GF'd gear. But idk. I opened a ticket and spoke with a GM about this. It apparently depends who you get. This is NOT a bannable offense in most cases and will be fixed in the upcoming 4.3 patch. enjoy while it lasts i guess

 

[Healstrong]

. People just want to play their toons, just like anyone else.

this is correct.



many people in every bracket used multiple exploits. look at all those 19's who has wotlk leg armors, outland rep head enchants, ring enchants, i used to be closed minded about doing xp on games. i was simply against it. however playing on my druid i do not really have any advantage over another full BoA character unless of course i use my lifeblood, which i usually do if im left in a situation FC'ing by myself. I put a lot of time and effort into my 10 druid and many people in their own characters (more then myself) to totally deprive us of being able to play in just unreasonable.



i think you'll find that many people who have moved to the 10 bracket are graceful and therefore refrain from trolling other people's brackets and use of game mechanics. infact we're helpful to everyone. the only difference between what we're doing compared to other brackets is we're killing players over trial accounts, we're not exactly hacking to get our achievements as many people have suggested. please show some degree of self control when posting in the 10-14 bracket forums and / or just stay in your broken brackets and let certain people forever demolish each other through trolling. it is not welcome here



the 10 - 14 bracket is amongst the most balanced. i encourage all to come join us, especially for scheduled games.

 

[tinkx]

hmm im going to have to disagree with your 70 argument. 70 mages are no where near as bad as a low lvl Hunter.

yeah cause low lvl hunters have 2 shields 2 ice blocks 2 derp freeze's counter spell and can kill a healer in one shatter combo. but you play one so you would know how under powered they are.

 

[RestOfTheLynx]

This is all i've got to say.



Read it.

 

[Mikian]

I use the glitch, and have fun owning noobs.

 

[Rivfader]

2. What I also mean by the 2 sides is that there is very little difference between OP BoA toons and Twinked OP BoA toons @ 10.

You are correct, except the major difference is that a 10 in full BoAs with XP on will level out after 1-2 wins which makes them far less of a threat than if glitching queues became status quo for 10s.



I'm not knocking you guys. I really respect what you're doing with beats on 19s/14s.

 

[Josselinbeaumont]

"They brought it on themselves... People just want to play their toons, just like anyone else. "

How pathetic, when they made separate bgs, and exp lock mechanism, there was no lvl 10 toon in the entire world...so YOU decided to go that way...

So... using my gold to unlock xp, queue and lock xp before entering is exploiting? wtf???



Exploit my azz...

Nobody care how much you pay to use that exploit, you would pay 2000 each game, you would still be exploiting. There has been more exploits resulting in clickings in wow history that you can think off, basicly that's the definition of it, it would be called a hack otherwize if it wasn't resulting of the UI clicks. Wsg glitchs, Rez glitch, hell even saronite bombs on a boss fight at some point, doesn't ring a bell to you, you don't play much do you (I get it now)? Go read again the definition of exploits. You are more damaged that I initially thought.

Pwnadin, the more you read the more clueless you become then if you think they are correct, they are all saying "blabla it's fine" because 90% of theses who replied are doing it themselves... so obviously they are not gonna shoot themselves in the foot, and defend the little breath that's left of them. Using an exploit is against the ToU, if you renounce to that term, you are not supposed to play wow at all, so your point of playing or not is irrelevant.

Ofc I report them for this, people with 50% crit 30% haste 30% resi, like 5% of your entire mana regen over 3 or 4 times normal hp, and worse they go in groups ? Are you really kidding me ? You want me to give them a medal ? in 10-14 exp on, people hardly have half of their slots filled up, and thoses filled up slots are mostly going to be white items, thats beyond pathetic what's going on. How many people got wow trial, jumped into pvp to see what's like quit, because YOU wanted to play. And finally decided not to subscribe to the game because they were getting one shot by unkillable toons. Saying that the lvl 10 bracket is the most balanced with the stats I have quoted, is not only foolish but premature, since you haven't even done that many real games in exp off if at all for some of you...You don't have the 19's look back to even say things like that.

First step to recovery, is admitting that you have a problem... this is an exploit, anybody who says otherwize because "Daddy it cost 20g", is a fucking clueless idiot. You want me to paste you the screenshot of at least 3-4 different sources from GM and Senior GM EU, who says it's an exploit ?

 

[l30t53dd6p]

"They brought it on themselves... People just want to play their toons, just like anyone else. "

How pathetic, when they made separate bgs, and exp lock mechanism, there was no lvl 10 toon in the entire world...so YOU decided to go that way...

Nope ive never played locked bg's with my level 10 in the 10-19 bracket ever right?



And no, we were never ever able to play games and blizzard never ever took our pvp battlegrounds away from us? aint that right?



Enough reason for me to not call this an exploit when blizzard ignores the level 10s who want to play @ level 10.

 

[Josselinbeaumont]

You talking about that time where even a lvl 19 twink couldn't even kill a lvl 10, right, give us a break... Ofc they don't care of lvl 10s... that much that that they don't even fix resilience... you want everything and now anyway we get it

 

[Ioerror]

1. Max resil @ 10 is around 30% now.  That is far below 85's.

2. There were some very skilled 19's who thought outside the box and learned how to solo a 10 resil twink (I posted a few names last fall).

3. In the end, it is a game. All people want is to be able to play the game with characters they have created.

 

[hillkid101]

you bads defending cheating sound like a bunch or cry baby kids.

oh wait!

 

[Hurrx]

lol cheating

 

[Pwnadin]

lol @ everyone. Take your blood pressure medication before you explode. please. gg

 

[Ioerror]

you bads defending cheating sound like a bunch or cry baby kids.

oh wait!

1. Any twink at any level may be seen as a "cheater."  However, Blizzard has constantly made fixes where they see fit.  For example, why not nerf / remove the arena grand master?  It is clearly OP and not a low level item.  It is clearly "cheating," as were many other items - some of which are nerfed - others which continue to be present.

2. Name calling as seen above in your quote is quite . . . embarassing as it tells the community much about yourself.  Please refrain from such immaturity.