Gankenstein
Legend
As title says, combat rogue any good?
Or backstab rogue maby?
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Or backstab rogue maby?
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Combat rogue any good?
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Gankenstein
Legend
Alright, thanks.
danceparty
Legend
Evade's correct. Go sub swords.
1. Spec into waylay.
2. Ambush. Hope for waylay proc.
3. Sinister strike with swords.
4. If waylay falls off swap back to dagger and shadowstep to backstab. Hope waylay reapplies.
This is how I've been playing sub spec.
1. Spec into waylay.
2. Ambush. Hope for waylay proc.
3. Sinister strike with swords.
4. If waylay falls off swap back to dagger and shadowstep to backstab. Hope waylay reapplies.
This is how I've been playing sub spec.
The Unspeakable
Legend
I'm really enjoying combat a lot more than I did Sub. I miss shadowstep, to be sure, and even more than that I miss my 4 second cooldown fast stealth. These are both really useful things to have.
What I do not miss, however, is a damage frontload of some 400-500 points followed by periods of absolute uselessness. Once your load is blown as a sub rogue, you essentially do nothing but white damage. SS is so feeble, expensive, and far between (4.5 seconds a pop) that it almost feels worthless. Obviously, damage is damage, but c'mon; even gouge does more than an unbuffed SS.
While still far from what it used to be, combat SS's are much meatier, hitting almost as hard as whites and doing so about a second more frequently than sub. On top of that you get the buff recup regen, ticking for double sub's and giving you a nice 6% universal damage buffer on top of that. While a rogue really should play more surgically, travelling in stealth to where they're needed, doing the deed, then running away to prep for his next hit, this isn't always possible or useful. Blade Flurry can be a little fun in the rare cases where you can actually use it to any effect.
Obviously, sub still has it's place. Combat can't match it's burst, and that extra 400-500 all at once on an EFC taking slow burn from your team against heals makes all the difference. I just can't get used to being useful for 2 seconds, then turning into a feather-rogue who runs around spamming the mechanical equivalent of the /tickle emote.
Really, all you can do is spec and play both ways, then decide what you enjoy playing more.
What I do not miss, however, is a damage frontload of some 400-500 points followed by periods of absolute uselessness. Once your load is blown as a sub rogue, you essentially do nothing but white damage. SS is so feeble, expensive, and far between (4.5 seconds a pop) that it almost feels worthless. Obviously, damage is damage, but c'mon; even gouge does more than an unbuffed SS.
While still far from what it used to be, combat SS's are much meatier, hitting almost as hard as whites and doing so about a second more frequently than sub. On top of that you get the buff recup regen, ticking for double sub's and giving you a nice 6% universal damage buffer on top of that. While a rogue really should play more surgically, travelling in stealth to where they're needed, doing the deed, then running away to prep for his next hit, this isn't always possible or useful. Blade Flurry can be a little fun in the rare cases where you can actually use it to any effect.
Obviously, sub still has it's place. Combat can't match it's burst, and that extra 400-500 all at once on an EFC taking slow burn from your team against heals makes all the difference. I just can't get used to being useful for 2 seconds, then turning into a feather-rogue who runs around spamming the mechanical equivalent of the /tickle emote.
Really, all you can do is spec and play both ways, then decide what you enjoy playing more.
danceparty
Legend
Combat
Sub
Would you rather be a construction worker or a surgen?
Sub
Would you rather be a construction worker or a surgen?
The Unspeakable
Legend
If everybody were a surgeon, construction workers find more work. I'd rather break my back all day than spend constant long intervals of unemployment between the operations I'd get to perform.
Gankenstein
Legend
Thanks all, i got 58 killing blows 2 minutes ago when in combat.
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danceparty said:
Where would Muti rogues fall under, if I may ask...?
Startled
Legend
pilgrim said:
Yes never think for yourself, that is the first step taken to becoming a bad player. Just look at all the top end raiding/PvP guilds in the world, do you think they got where they were by thinking for themselves? Exactly they didn't they just waited for someone else to figure it out for them. Now that I'm done being a sarcastic prick... try them both out before saying "ill go with this build because this guy told me too". I prefur combat, I think it's better but obviously the rogue community is split between sub/combat so figure out which one you like best.