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    • With misses being a thing again, I believe it's safe to assume that avoidance (dodge, parry and baseline miss) plays a factor again. If anyone wants to know their avoidance percent, you can run this script. Mine's quite high actually...

    /run local d,p=GetDodgeChance(),GetParryChance() print(format("Avoidance breakdown: %.2f%% Dodge + %.2f%% Parry + 5%% Base miss = %.2f%% Total Avoidance.",d,p,d+p+5))

    source: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/2830983678
     
    Mine is showing as 20.09%, isn't this going to be the same for every rogue? Is there any items which will reduce this?
     
    Yeah. I was an idiot and completely misunderstood what the calculation represented. It would be interesting if people were able to run tests and verify that it's still valid. This makes agility more valuable than I originally thought (assuming this is still valid).
     
    Hmm, what levels and abilities are you seeing misses on? Any particular classes they happen against most often? I haven't played 19s at all this patch, but I don't think I've noticed it at all in higher brackets. I just got MSBT updated and reinstalled yesterday though, so I haven't had the miss/dodge/parry text I'm used to looking at.

    Worth putting in bug reports too, pvp misses probably aren't intended.
     
    Swoops said:
    Hmm, what levels and abilities are you seeing misses on? Any particular classes they happen against most often? I haven't played 19s at all this patch, but I don't think I've noticed it at all in higher brackets. I just got MSBT updated and reinstalled yesterday though, so I haven't had the miss/dodge/parry text I'm used to looking at.

    Worth putting in bug reports too, pvp misses probably aren't intended.
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    legit every ability and autos lmao.
     
    Put in bug reports on misses in PvP lol.

    Grow up and accept the game people. Nobody gives a damn if you like a feature or not - having your mom call and complain is just ignorant.
     
    Well I hope you’re not actually dumb enough to think that PvP misses are an oversight.

    I get that melees and hunters don’t like missing. I hope you get that as a caster who has missed for years I will drink your tears if you cry about it.
     
    MYT said:
    Well I hope you’re not actually dumb enough to think that PvP misses are an oversight.

    I get that melees and hunters don’t like missing. I hope you get that as a caster who has missed for years I will drink your tears if you cry about it.
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    Look at it like this though, whenever misses were a part of the game, so was hit rating / expertise. You had ways to level out that RNG part of the game. Now you don't. It looks rather unintended in that regard. Idk if ppl even miss at endgame, but at lower levels it's actually huge.
     
    There was missing in wow long before hit rating was introduced.

    The fact is people are bug reporting things they don’t have / like in the hopes that the current buzz of dev activity will “fix” the game the way they want.

    Anyone not upset by this is either very naive or trying to exploit. Wow had misses most of the time it’s been around. For casters it’s always had it. Trying to manipulate it away after it gets added it back is self serving.

    Personally I don’t actually care if they have misses or not, but I care deeply about whether a bunch of spoiled children will try to change the game and end up breaking a very solid xpac. Children getting blizzard to change things via exploiting their process is actually worse than those same children making premades rules, because we can ignore their rules but we have to play the game as it exists.
     
    MYT said:
    There was missing in wow long before hit rating was introduced.

    The fact is people are bug reporting things they don’t have / like in the hopes that the current buzz of dev activity will “fix” the game the way they want.

    Anyone not upset by this is either very naive or trying to exploit. Wow had misses most of the time it’s been around. For casters it’s always had it. Trying to manipulate it away after it gets added it back is self serving.

    Personally I don’t actually care if they have misses or not, but I care deeply about whether a bunch of spoiled children will try to change the game and end up breaking a very solid xpac. Children getting blizzard to change things via exploiting their process is actually worse than those same children making premades rules, because we can ignore their rules but we have to play the game as it exists.
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    Okay, so let's say misses are a thing again. WHY THE FUCK DO I MISS ABILITIES WHILE BEING BEHIND SOMEONE? That was legit NEVER a thing before. The way to avoid misses was to simply be behind your target. Also, you miss less on high levels than on people on pair with your own. It makes 0 sense, and obviously comes off strong as something unintended.
     
    In that case it may be an actual bug then, unlike 99% of the time when people just declare something unintended and report it
     
    Back in the day (2010) you could miss regardless of your position relative to the target (if I remember correctly). Miss was entirely based on your ability to hit the target. You couldn't have you attacks dodged or parried from behind however.
     
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    MYT said:
    There was missing in wow long before hit rating was introduced.

    The fact is people are bug reporting things they don’t have / like in the hopes that the current buzz of dev activity will “fix” the game the way they want.

    Anyone not upset by this is either very naive or trying to exploit. Wow had misses most of the time it’s been around. For casters it’s always had it. Trying to manipulate it away after it gets added it back is self serving.

    Personally I don’t actually care if they have misses or not, but I care deeply about whether a bunch of spoiled children will try to change the game and end up breaking a very solid xpac. Children getting blizzard to change things via exploiting their process is actually worse than those same children making premades rules, because we can ignore their rules but we have to play the game as it exists.
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    Misses were removed from the game as a mechanic, and it looks like they're only happening at low levels right now. Do you honestly think they intentionally added them back to low levels only without reintroducing hit rating to the game?
     
    Yes I do honestly think missing is back since you’re missing. Objectively, it’s in the game because it’s happening.

    They removed item stats from ipvp and then added them back is that a bug too?
     
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