Worst idea yet.

[Lateraldrop]

So, the thorns shaman build (taking every item that deals dmg when you are hit) has come to a stand still mostly because idk if ill ever get the shield i need anyway.

so instead i think ill put some effort into a new goofy build idea of mine, and I think this one will be the worst one yet. Made a rogue named "Thickastheif." Fun little word play there because the build is to make him as thick as possible. Full stam stacked w duel watchers and the JC trinks will be the play i think. The build is for running the newly redesigned "Drink up me harties" that increases crimson vial to heal 25% total health, and also to create an aura that heals all allies within 15 feet by 60% of the amount.

I suspect that this will be laughibly bad, but... im still gonna do it. I will post back w how it goes (again, likely terribly)

 

[Eleannor]

Think it's safe to assume you can get at least to 4000 HP. Meaning Crimson Vial will heal you for 1000HP. The talent would make it an uncapped AoE heal of 600HP, which is not half bad.

 

[BANKONE]

Battlemasters enchants for aoe heals on melee damage as well!

priestess neck enchant?

 

[glancealot]

For a cc rogue, you would rather pick up dismantle, no?

 

[Taeo]

Could you show your thorns shaman i was thinking of doing the exact same thing

 

[Chey]

You know I am guna love it! Give it a shot, sometimes the most fun comes from the design and build! Its just an added bonus if it works haha

 

[Lateraldrop]

Battlemasters enchants for aoe heals on melee damage as well!

priestess neck enchant?

thanks for the heads up thats deffo worth looking into i battlemasters didnt even cross my mind.

 

[Mnemonic]

Hmm, at a certain point it might be worth running heavy vers gear instead of slots, or even +3 vers gems in some amount, especially if vers counts twice (initial self heal and the 60% on allies).

 

[BANKONE]

@Lateraldrop

2 things.

1) for the shaman. Don’t give it up totally because of skullflame. You can use this until you’re able to snipe. https://www.wowhead.com/item=13375/crest-of-retribution?bonus=6710

Do you have a link to the shaman armory?? Curious to see what you’ve put together so far.

2) for the healing rogue. this video was from TBC but is always is always in the back of my mind. https://youtu.be/HW_HTENIwK4



Good luck!

 

[Lateraldrop]

I don't have an armory for him yet bc I was waiting for skullflame to appear but ill give what i was lookin at.

https://www.wowhead.com/item=34227/deadmans-hand (have it from an old 29 back in vanilla. the reason why I thought to do this build to begin with.)
https://www.wowhead.com/item=11669/naglering?bonus=6710
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=9197/green-whelp-armor
https://www.wowhead.com/item=18326/razor-gauntlets?bonus=6710
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1168/skullflame-shield?bonus=6661

there were some trinkets i was looking at as well, but ill have to re0discover those ig.

Crest looks like a promising stop gap.

 

[BANKONE]

@Lateraldrop

https://www.wowhead.com/item=161007/direhorn-studded-britches?bonus=6691

 

[Lateraldrop]

there is a belt w that too right? i forgot that one

Edit: looks like that one drops outside our lvl -_-

 

[Mnemonic]

@Lateraldrop

 

[Chops]

@Lateraldrop

View attachment 19590

versatility doesnt increase your health pool, and since thats what crimson vial scales off of and having a massive heal from vial is his goal (not tankiness, though i guess tankiness is the byproduct) then stacking vers isnt really what he's going for.

 

[Mnemonic]

versatility doesnt increase your health pool, and since thats what crimson vial scales off of and having a massive heal from vial is his goal (not tankiness, though i guess tankiness is the byproduct) then stacking vers isnt really what he's going for.

That's just showing the competitive +healing on the effect.

Talasites should increase the heal by 9hp/per. If your vers % affects the heal (I have no reason to believe it doesn't?), then you get the above breakdown.

 

[Lateraldrop]

@Lateraldrop

View attachment 19590

this chart compares the healing gained from talasite since the heal scales from max hp?

60 hp should give +15 healing personally and +9 healing to the aura.

using formula:
60(hp gained)*.25=15
15(healing gained from personal heal)*.6=9

Vers is definitely going to be pretty effective.

Edit: Thanks for the chart, good stuff!

 

[Chops]

That's just showing the competitive +healing on the effect.

Talasites should increase the heal by 9hp/per. If your vers % affects the heal (I have no reason to believe it doesn't?), then you get the above breakdown.

ah, i misunderstood

 

[glancealot]

you need to think about what your end goal here is: it is always "helping your team win with a sub-optimal build without over-gimping yourself".

so the idea should be utility and CC rogue that stacks talasite and live longer than a traditional rogue, not a "heal rogue" where your heal is a laughable 30-sec CD heal.

so you need to stop tunnel visioning a 30-sec CD ability and trying to build everything around that.

stamina rogue should work with timely saps, stuns and other CCs and utilities, but only if you play, spec and enchant (for example, consider 2 https://www.wowhead.com/item=35498/formula-enchant-weapon-deathfrost ) optimally.

 

[Hennelorix]

you need to think about what your end goal here is: it is always "helping your team win with a sub-optimal build without over-gimping yourself".

so the idea should be utility and CC rogue that stacks talasite and live longer than a traditional rogue, not a "heal rogue" where your

so you need to stop tunnel visioning a 30-sec CD ability and trying to build everything around that.

stamina rogue should work with timely saps, stuns and other CCs and utilities, but only if you play, spec and enchant (for example, consider 2 https://www.wowhead.com/item=35498/formula-enchant-weapon-deathfrost ) optimally.

Deathfrost wont decrease ms because it affects attack speed. I dont see any reason to use it for this build.

 

[glancealot]

also maybe consider things like https://www.wowhead.com/item=810/hammer-of-the-northern-wind

@zazzyfraz has one.

i am sure there are a lot of other utility items out there such as https://www.wowhead.com/item=10623/winters-bite