Why Nawt?

[Eikor/Exo]

Hey so I'm pretty new to Windrunner and the 29s over here. I've been playing since vanilla on and off because of everything. life. you know? anyways, i was thinking ALLIANCE side (horde are a lot cooler my mains a troll druid ftw <) why don't we get all together in one guild? maybe we could attract more to the bracket and horde perhaps do the same? People who aren't playing 29s are missing out! We got the potential if we smarten up to change the bracket, for the better. I'd love all day ques.... it would be great!



So go ahead and troll if thats what you do, I dont really care I've seen it all and done it all, I'm very high but forgetting that I hope between horde and alliance we can come together and get this going full force. I'm even down to advertise our community on a bigger scale for more players. I'm blabbing on it's late:Alliance::Horde:

 

[devotadin]

Hey so I'm pretty new to Windrunner and the 29s over here. I've been playing since vanilla on and off because of everything. life. you know? anyways, i was thinking ALLIANCE side (horde are a lot cooler my mains a troll druid ftw <) why don't we get all together in one guild? maybe we could attract more to the bracket and horde perhaps do the same? People who aren't playing 29s are missing out! We got the potential if we smarten up to change the bracket, for the better. I'd love all day ques.... it would be great!



So go ahead and troll if thats what you do, I dont really care I've seen it all and done it all, I'm very high but forgetting that I hope between horde and alliance we can come together and get this going full force. I'm even down to advertise our community on a bigger scale for more players. I'm blabbing on it's late:Alliance::Horde:

I doubt its gonna happen most people wanna keep there gfed gear and will not pay for transfers also next patch it doesn't matter as much since you can q up for bgs cross server with friends on your live id

 

[Franchi]

I doubt its gonna happen most people wanna keep there gfed gear and will not pay for transfers also next patch it doesn't matter as much since you can q up for bgs cross server with friends on your live id

Seeing as how the next patch is also the end of this expac, and potantialy 6 or more months away, and considering the transmog feature WILL get more attention than cross realm queuing i don't see many folks holding their breath for the feature.



that being said a high percentage of horde have bet on Dragonmaw as the 29 horde twink server.

 

[Kirise]

In theory, I think it's a great idea. In practice, there are three factors to consider before getting this off the ground.



1) Running a guild takes sustained time and effort, even if the guild is just a hangout for all alliance 29s. At some point issues come to bear that need addressing, so someone has to step up and take responsibility or everyone in the guild suffers as a whole. For example, when Hard was the "29 hangout" guild late last year, and the 4.0.1 patch turned sub rogues into ridiculously OP killing machines until 4.0.3 came out, a ton of rerolled sub rogues brought a lot of heat to Hard players as a whole. Finally, the GM kicked four of them out of the guild to show that he prioritized the good of the bracket over the will of some FOTM rollers. He could have chosen otherwise and told everyone that Hard was just a guildhall for the bracket (which it was, at the time). Either decision would have brought criticism. Make no mistake, putting everyone together in one guild means someone needs to lead, even for a "guildhall" guild. That's why this suggestion comes up every couple of months, but no one has acted on it yet.



2) The 29 bracket is in the middle of a major culture clash. If I may oversimplify, veterans from the tight-knit community of the mid-3.x-era are much more bracket-oriented, believing that regulating the bracket will bring the same tremendous success the bracket experienced last year. Pre-3.x veterans and rerolls believe the health of the bracket begins with the good of the individual, which likewise brought tremendous success for them in the past (if you intend to comment about this comparison, please start a new thread so that the original poster's thread doesn't get derailed). This polarizing culture clash has long since passed the bounds of respect and decency in 29s, and getting all the players on Windrunner under one roof is very unlikely until this clash settles down.



3) As cool as it would be to get alliance 29s under one roof, the (now working) ability to queue from different battlegroups and consistently get games weakens the appeal of moving to Windrunner for just a casual hangout. That leaves the current Windrunner population as the main people potentially interested in such a thing, and I honestly don't know how large a population that is anymore.



TL;DR version: An alliance "29 hangout" guild is a good idea, but promoting, building and maintaining such a thing will be anything but casual.

 

[Daydra]

In theory, I think it's a great idea. In practice, there are three factors to consider before getting this off the ground.



1) Running a guild takes sustained time and effort, even if the guild is just a hangout for all alliance 29s. At some point issues come to bear that need addressing, so someone has to step up and take responsibility or everyone in the guild suffers as a whole. For example, when Hard was the "29 hangout" guild late last year, and the 4.0.1 patch turned sub rogues into ridiculously OP killing machines until 4.0.3 came out, a ton of rerolled sub rogues brought a lot of heat to Hard players as a whole. Finally, the GM kicked four of them out of the guild to show that he prioritized the good of the bracket over the will of some FOTM rollers. He could have chosen otherwise and told everyone that Hard was just a guildhall for the bracket (which it was, at the time). Either decision would have brought criticism. Make no mistake, putting everyone together in one guild means someone needs to lead, even for a "guildhall" guild. That's why this suggestion comes up every couple of months, but no one has acted on it yet.



2) The 29 bracket is in the middle of a major culture clash. If I may oversimplify, veterans from the tight-knit community of the mid-3.x-era are much more bracket-oriented, believing that regulating the bracket will bring the same tremendous success the bracket experienced last year. Pre-3.x veterans and rerolls believe the health of the bracket begins with the good of the individual, which likewise brought tremendous success for them in the past (if you intend to comment about this comparison, please start a new thread so that the original poster's thread doesn't get derailed). This polarizing culture clash has long since passed the bounds of respect and decency in 29s, and getting all the players on Windrunner under one roof is very unlikely until this clash settles down.



3) As cool as it would be to get alliance 29s under one roof, the (now working) ability to queue from different battlegroups and consistently get games weakens the appeal of moving to Windrunner for just a casual hangout. That leaves the current Windrunner population as the main people potentially interested in such a thing, and I honestly don't know how large a population that is anymore.



TL;DR version: An alliance "29 hangout" guild is a good idea, but promoting, building and maintaining such a thing will be anything but casual.

So eloquent ILY <3

Listen to nirise he's giving you a word to the wise. Its not a bad thing to grow a guild and keep a stong interest in hanging out but it will come with some issues. Just be aware.

 

[Eikor/Exo]

All great stuff, It's nice to see people being positive and motivated. I wish i could say the same for some alliance players. Bwappo, very well put and for some of it sadly true. It might be way out there to even think anything could be done. With school coming up for quite a few people things could change quite a bit I would like the idea of a game early in the week and 2 on the weekend perhaps an arena night? This is do-able, I would be happy to help with any organization.



It would be great to see a veteran in the bracket on the alliance side do something for Windrunner so we can enjoy the game more.

 

[Igotoparties]

All great stuff, It's nice to see people being positive and motivated. I wish i could say the same for some alliance players. Bwappo, very well put and for some of it sadly true. It might be way out there to even think anything could be done. With school coming up for quite a few people things could change quite a bit I would like the idea of a game early in the week and 2 on the weekend perhaps an arena night? This is do-able, I would be happy to help with any organization.



It would be great to see a veteran in the bracket on the alliance side do something for Windrunner so we can enjoy the game more.

You seem chill bro.

 

[Eikor/Exo]

yah brew i just wanna have some fun, a little more fun. the hunters on both sides are a problem but there isn't anything we can do about it, unfortunately. you can't tell someone not to play a character if its all they got or if their trying to even out the numbers on the feild. either way lets keep havin some fun and im excited for another night. it'll be dope.