What is the best tank? (LoL)
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Painaid
The Immortal
As I'm sure you'd guess, there isn't a clear cut answer to this question and you'll likely get all sorts of different answers.
Obviously tanks are supposed to soak up damage and initiate team fights. Their job is to protect your carries who do the damage.
Each tank has their perks.
Rammus - Really fast movement speed, one of only 3 tanks with an actual taunt. Exceptional defense against AD attacks. Very good jungler, pathetic laner.
Shen - Has an AoE taunt, has damage soaking shield, and a global ult that shields and teleports you to a teammate in need. Can Jungle (but more slowly than others) and he can lane decently.
Amumu - AoE ult that stuns/snares everyone nearby. Has a great initiation move. Can jungle but pathetic laner.
Udyr - Can put out decent dps, great damage soaking capability with turtle stance, great jungler but pathetic laner.
Galio - Great defense against Magic (the opposite of Rammus), an AoE taunt, decent damage, but has been hit with the nerf bat so he has a rough early game. Cannot jungle.
Alistar - His ult reduces all inc dmg by 75% making him the best damage soaker short term, has great CC if used correctly and a weak AoE heal. He cannot farm well or jungle, but he is a decent lane pusher.
Singed - Very good laning phase, has great initiation, very hard to kill/chase down. Cannot jungle.
Mundo - Decent laner/harraser. His Ult can make him extremely hard to focus down, but he is easily countered with Ignite.
Cho-gath - Extremely good laning phase and harass. His passive makes it near impossible to force him out of the lane. He's great at finishing off low hp enemies with ult, has a long duration aoe silence, and an aoe knock-up, so very good CC.
Malphite - Passive makes him very difficult to kill. Has one of the best initiation spells with his charge + aoe knock-up. Also has a decent single-target slow. He's a very good jungler and a decent laner.
I'm probably forgetting some so-so tanks but this basically covers them. They're all good in their own way. Notice the ones I said could jungle though. Every competitive team needs a jungler and some tanks are very good junglers and are otherwise very poor laning mates. There's other tanks that can't jungle but are otherwise very good in the lane.
It really just comes down to which one you find the most fun. Overall, tanks are pretty well balanced at the moment.
Obviously tanks are supposed to soak up damage and initiate team fights. Their job is to protect your carries who do the damage.
Each tank has their perks.
Rammus - Really fast movement speed, one of only 3 tanks with an actual taunt. Exceptional defense against AD attacks. Very good jungler, pathetic laner.
Shen - Has an AoE taunt, has damage soaking shield, and a global ult that shields and teleports you to a teammate in need. Can Jungle (but more slowly than others) and he can lane decently.
Amumu - AoE ult that stuns/snares everyone nearby. Has a great initiation move. Can jungle but pathetic laner.
Udyr - Can put out decent dps, great damage soaking capability with turtle stance, great jungler but pathetic laner.
Galio - Great defense against Magic (the opposite of Rammus), an AoE taunt, decent damage, but has been hit with the nerf bat so he has a rough early game. Cannot jungle.
Alistar - His ult reduces all inc dmg by 75% making him the best damage soaker short term, has great CC if used correctly and a weak AoE heal. He cannot farm well or jungle, but he is a decent lane pusher.
Singed - Very good laning phase, has great initiation, very hard to kill/chase down. Cannot jungle.
Mundo - Decent laner/harraser. His Ult can make him extremely hard to focus down, but he is easily countered with Ignite.
Cho-gath - Extremely good laning phase and harass. His passive makes it near impossible to force him out of the lane. He's great at finishing off low hp enemies with ult, has a long duration aoe silence, and an aoe knock-up, so very good CC.
Malphite - Passive makes him very difficult to kill. Has one of the best initiation spells with his charge + aoe knock-up. Also has a decent single-target slow. He's a very good jungler and a decent laner.
I'm probably forgetting some so-so tanks but this basically covers them. They're all good in their own way. Notice the ones I said could jungle though. Every competitive team needs a jungler and some tanks are very good junglers and are otherwise very poor laning mates. There's other tanks that can't jungle but are otherwise very good in the lane.
It really just comes down to which one you find the most fun. Overall, tanks are pretty well balanced at the moment.
Druiddroid
OG
mundo is like a 3's tank
Naturaltalnt
OG
I enjoy teaming up with Rammus, Blitzcrank, & Mord.
Painaid
The Immortal
Hence why I said decent laner? And AP Sion is decent in lane but as late game approaches his viability really starts to wear down. So saying he's almost as good as that isn't saying much. I'd put many other champs in a solo lane before I would put a Malphite. Preferably a physical carry or an even better early-mid champ like Nidalee.
And by building a catalyst and comparing him to AP Sion, you seem to be implying AP Malphite, and this thread is explicitly about tanking so your point is irrelevant to begin with.
And often times it is relegated to the tank to jungle, and Malphite is a very good jungler indeed. He is one of the fastest (and safest) and is also one of the best gankers. I'm sorry you've never met a good jungle Malphite. They're out there; perhaps you're just not looking hard enough.
And by building a catalyst and comparing him to AP Sion, you seem to be implying AP Malphite, and this thread is explicitly about tanking so your point is irrelevant to begin with.
And often times it is relegated to the tank to jungle, and Malphite is a very good jungler indeed. He is one of the fastest (and safest) and is also one of the best gankers. I'm sorry you've never met a good jungle Malphite. They're out there; perhaps you're just not looking hard enough.
Druiddroid
OG
Painaid said:
i've never seen one
maybe they're not playing enough
what's ur user name?!?!/11/
Naturaltalnt
OG
Druiddroid said:
Heavens77. I play with a few friends on occasion.
Really looking forward to the next opening of RIFTs beta on Feb 4th.
Tried Cata for a month, however since most of the people I know quit/moved/etc its rather boring : /.
McBankington
Who's this guy?
Rammus a terrible laner? the fuck you smoking and where can I get some? Lane him with one who has intense early game dps and you will be getting kills aroudn the clock, the other day I was playing him and laned with an eve, laning against ez and ryze, I was 5/0/6 and eve was 7/0/5 13 or so minutes and we were 2/3 levels ahead of them constantly. Rammus can be absolutely retarded in a lane.
Druiddroid
OG
Naturaltalnt said:
never bought it since twinks died and i hated raids/endgame
never seen a rammus lane exceptionally well, i think if you go 12-0 in a lane that means the opponents probably sucked
although when i lane with eve on pantheon it's usually a roflstomp so maybe rammus and eve is a good combo idk
Painaid
The Immortal
Anecdotal evidence isn't really the best proof. And any one who feeds 12 kills in the first 13 mins (something i find mathematically hard to believe?) shows more that your opponents were trash.
My point still stands that laning rammus sucks, especially when compared to jungler Rammus. Unless the opponent is stupid enough to get taunted under your tower, then there's not much you can do. Even powerball is easy to avoid by standing behind minions.
And the laning phase isn't all about getting kills. Often times there won't be kills on either side of the lane. A laning Rammus simply cannot farm very well. His auto attacks are weak and he is too easily harassed by any sort of ranged attack.
My point still stands that laning rammus sucks, especially when compared to jungler Rammus. Unless the opponent is stupid enough to get taunted under your tower, then there's not much you can do. Even powerball is easy to avoid by standing behind minions.
And the laning phase isn't all about getting kills. Often times there won't be kills on either side of the lane. A laning Rammus simply cannot farm very well. His auto attacks are weak and he is too easily harassed by any sort of ranged attack.
McBankington
Who's this guy?
Painaid said:
Compared to jungle rammus yes he sucks but he can still lane well, and yes I do realize it's hard to believe but go lane with a good eve as rammus and if your opponent has at least one squishy person int heir lane you will absolutely wreck.
Druiddroid
OG
well, that's probably because you have eve and snares
stealth stun -> snares -> dead
the problem is when you face people that know how that combo works
you won't absolutely wreck if your opponents know what they are doing
stealth stun -> snares -> dead
the problem is when you face people that know how that combo works
you won't absolutely wreck if your opponents know what they are doing
Painaid
The Immortal
Eve in a lane isn't that great either. Buy a ward. Problem solved. She's just as vulnerable to any sort of ranged attack in the lane. And if you got 12 kills in 13 minutes, then you basically killed both of your opponents practically the moment they rezzed and got back in the lane. This is an episode of extreme feeding and really really bad players--not a display of Rammus being good in a lane.
And perhaps you and the Eve played exceptionally well, which is also very likely. In this case, it's a matter of the exceptional not being the norm.
There are tons of tanks out there that are much better laners than Rammus (which is really what this thread is about). However, Rammus is one of the best jungler tanks in the game.
Free to disagree with me if you want.
And perhaps you and the Eve played exceptionally well, which is also very likely. In this case, it's a matter of the exceptional not being the norm.
There are tons of tanks out there that are much better laners than Rammus (which is really what this thread is about). However, Rammus is one of the best jungler tanks in the game.
Free to disagree with me if you want.