What is better for mages, paiies and shammies? 30 SP or 22 int?

[kronos/kendra]

Might make some toons Want to know

 

[Brokeboi]

I've always just gone with 22 int because thats what everyone has, I'm actually not sure though.

 

[Mesikämmen]

If you wan't to take all out of those chants, use the 22int one till you've used up that 330 mana, then change to a weapon with 30sp. You'll need to get double the amount of heirloom weapons, though, but what wouldn't you do to perfect your twink!

 

[Gingerbred]

int gives crit

and 22 int = 330 mana

22 int is better in all situations imo

 

[Discover]

22 intellect=22 sp, probably 1% crit or something (I really have no idea how much crit 22 int gives @ 19 but w/e) and 220 mana before any class talent buffs, 30sp is just 30sp, 22 int is pretty much better in most scenarios except for a glass cannon set I suppose?

 

[The Saint]

int gives crit

and 22 int = 330 mana

22 int is better in all situations imo

this!

int = crit mp5 and more mana vs 8sp

 

[Gingerbred]

this!

int = crit mp5 and more mana vs 8sp

oh nice didn't know it gave mp5

 

[Mesikämmen]

Yeah INT does give a lot more benefit with the enchant, but after that 330mana has been used, it's basically 1% spellcrit, some mp5, 22sp vs 30sp. I would say the 30sp at this point is a marginal increase for healing/dps. Generally just use the 22int, though, if you don't feel like swapping items around a lot!

 

[Dorigon]

30sp on a lock, 22int on anything else

 

[Niini]

I use 30sp as shammy/lock/mage as none of those classes have major mana issues (sham's spells are dirty cheap and have thunderstorm which returns 8% of your mana, mages have evocate and locks get life tap) pallies need it though as their spells (FoL/Exo) are quite expensive!

 

[augiddin]

where the hell are you chops getting mp5 from?

 

[Niini]

more importantly why arent we throwing +20 spirit into the mix

 

[Sneaky]

If you purge spam for quite a bit you will go oom on a shaman :O

 

[Niini]

There arent that many buffs left that need to be purged lol- at the start of the game you might have two or three people who zone in fully buffed but after that it's pretty much just AGMs and priest bubbles, which if you have more then one hunter on your team are pretty hard to catch

 

[augiddin]

There arent that many buffs left that warrant a purge lol

that is only because your shaman is horde

 

[Niini]

psh niinirtrtrtrttr is still alliance

 

[Gingerbred]

i can't understand why you would take 8 sp over 1.3 % crit, especially if ur spec/class benefits from 100% more damage upon crit.

 

[Niini]

purple>yellow

 

[Dorigon]

i can't understand why you would take 8 sp over 1.3 % crit, especially if ur spec/class benefits from 100% more damage upon crit.

Really depends on the class. I would take 8 spellpower over ~3.67 crit rating any day.

 

[Zeiren]

After talking to Niini a few days ago I've actually been leaning towards a more spell powered gear base. I have 25-30 more spell power than I did in my other set with the sacrifice of 5% crit, 60hp and quite honestly, I still crit as frequently and significantly higher. Thus, using 30sp over 22int on a Shaman.

Like Niini said, our abilities barely cost any mana at all, other than purging people that are fully buffed in the beginning of a game, we can practically go through a whole game without going oom.