Warlocks and Pvp

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Are they worth anything in this bracket, could I do anything if I got really good?? Is it worth it?
 
affli is pretty nice for arena cause ur able to counter bad mages/caster in general, but u wont win against pve geared melees like rogues/hunter, even if u have much resi and soul link
 
affli is pretty nice for arena cause ur able to counter bad mages/caster in general, but u wont win against pve geared melees like rogues/hunter, even if u have much resi and soul link

Pretty much. Warlocks need time to setup kills, time which you often don't have in level 80 arenas.
 
Affliction warlocks are AWESOME at 80, 15k dot ticks are niceeeee
 
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Warlocks are VERY good at 80, I can solo a 84 blood DK twink with over 100k health, unless he uses anti mage shield in a good time,
Destro is the best spec, Conflig hits 50k's on a full resil twink, and Shadowflame is pro, and AoE stun is a must. Afflic is MERH dots are cool, but I dont use any DoTs as destro, not on my bars. If you don't 1hit (which is what Destro does) on a lock at 80, then you're going to get 1hit as a lock.
 
Just, just no. This isn't even possible.

Pretty much this.

Fearthedot look me up, levelign to 85 cuz i wana get good for MoP but I still have BiS 80 lock gear on, I hit over 50ks, i do 27k dps

Just no, there is no way you are doing 50 k hits on a full resi twink.

Two main reasons :

1. Barely any level 80 has over 40 k hp, so what you are telling me is that you manage to one shot people ? You are actually that overpowered ? i mean even a frost mages with 37 % mastery needs to at least two shot people. But no, you as destro manage to literally 1 hit people. I will believe this when i see it happening on myself or the day you bring us some proper logs of you hitting 50 k on a 1.4 ish resi geared healer and 1 shotting him.

2. You self claimed your self to have " best in slot " gear, nonetheless i see you using items such as Nevermelting Ice Crystal. Reign of the Dead ( normal ). These are just two examples, i would also like to point out how you lack pretty much every single possible enchant. But hey if i 1 hitted people without enchants i would not bother getting them as well.

So just to end it being the kindest i can, please, if you actually have no bloody idea of what you are talking about and you just made an account to fuorviate new players wanting to join the bracket you might as well get back to 1 hitting people in battlegrounds and leave these sort of threads where you obviously have nothing relevant to do.

Now getting back to the initial topic, i do believe affliction warlocks are good if well geared and i would say that in 2's you can be competitive with a proper healer ( i would suggest priest or either resto druid and shaman ).

I do however have no clue on warlocks as i have never played one myself but from the few i saw in battlegrounds ( I think one might be from legacy or Lnsanity ? ) they are extremely good with a very good and sustained damage.

Hope this helps, again, do not take my words for gold as mine is just an impression given to me by fighting a couple of good warlocks in 2's and watching a few perform very well.

Edit :

Arent Locks getting big changes next expansion?

They are indeed and the changes look at least interesting.
 
Pretty much this.



Just no, there is no way you are doing 50 k hits on a full resi twink.

Two main reasons :

1. Barely any level 80 has over 40 k hp, so what you are telling me is that you manage to one shot people ? You are actually that overpowered ? i mean even a frost mages with 37 % mastery needs to at least two shot people. But no, you as destro manage to literally 1 hit people. I will believe this when i see it happening on myself or the day you bring us some proper logs of you hitting 50 k on a 1.4 ish resi geared healer and 1 shotting him.

2. You self claimed your self to have " best in slot " gear, nonetheless i see you using items such as Nevermelting Ice Crystal. Reign of the Dead ( normal ). These are just two examples, i would also like to point out how you lack pretty much every single possible enchant. But hey if i 1 hitted people without enchants i would not bother getting them as well.

So just to end it being the kindest i can, please, if you actually have no bloody idea of what you are talking about and you just made an account to fuorviate new players wanting to join the bracket you might as well get back to 1 hitting people in battlegrounds and leave these sort of threads where you obviously have nothing relevant to do.

Now getting back to the initial topic, i do believe affliction warlocks are good if well geared and i would say that in 2's you can be competitive with a proper healer ( i would suggest priest or either resto druid and shaman ).

I do however have no clue on warlocks as i have never played one myself but from the few i saw in battlegrounds ( I think one might be from legacy or Lnsanity ? ) they are extremely good with a very good and sustained damage.

Hope this helps, again, do not take my words for gold as mine is just an impression given to me by fighting a couple of good warlocks in 2's and watching a few perform very well.

Edit :



They are indeed and the changes look at least interesting.

HAve you even tried a 80 arena or BG, its all 1hitting.. Affliction is about dispelling and lasting, Which almost never happens so its pointless, Destro has the most burst, and I have some new gear on, and enchants i can't afford but i do 1hit, if you make a level 1 when i am online LS horde (laughing skull) i have a 80 holy pally with full resilience set who will be happy to help me show you i can 1 hit him,

And OP Hunters>Mages>Druids/Rogues>Rest in OP wize.
 
HAve you even tried a 80 arena or BG, its all 1hitting.. Affliction is about dispelling and lasting, Which almost never happens so its pointless, Destro has the most burst, and I have some new gear on, and enchants i can't afford but i do 1hit, if you make a level 1 when i am online LS horde (laughing skull) i have a 80 holy pally with full resilience set who will be happy to help me show you i can 1 hit him,

And OP Hunters>Mages>Druids/Rogues>Rest in OP wize.

There's a lot wrong with this post. 50k on a full resilience'd healer (excluding resistances for the moment, as frost is the only resistance that is worth it), means that 50k is the standard hit - 46%. This means that you are hitting for around 100k with conflag. This isn't possible at 85, where you have twice as much SP to play with, so it sure as hell isn't possible at 80.

So please, don't try and lie to us. Destro is bursty sure, but there's no way it's 1shotting healers. No class or spec, level 80 or 84 can do that in this bracket.
 
I have 80 warlock and i don't really enjoy it in 80-84 bracket, as destro you have to try kill people fast as posibble or u gonna die in sec. Affli is not fun either cuz u need time to put dots and in that time frost mage already kills you. Ofc it's probably viable and ok if played right.

In pve warlock is much more fun, they can acutally pull good dps as demo or destro.
 
50k conflag(s), no way. Maybe if the stars lined up and you had zerker. But not on someone with full resil.

Locks do great in a support role on a team, but they're definitely not the force that carries a PuG. They can be the dealbreaker in a good pre-made with the control that they put out.
 
No class or spec, level 80 or 84 can do that in this bracket.
Not entirely true
ive seen over 100k crits from spriests, and I've had 50-60k crits from mages (granted, not in full resil).Tho things like that do take a lot of stars lining up with buffs, proc, etc. it is possible nonetheless
 
Not entirely true
ive seen over 100k crits from spriests, and I've had 50-60k crits from mages (granted, not in full resil).Tho things like that do take a lot of stars lining up with buffs, proc, etc. it is possible nonetheless

In arenas? Because that's basically all that matters PvPwise.
 
In arenas? Because that's basically all that matters PvPwise.

The mages were in arena. Arcane, came out of invisi with ap and one shot me, happened a bit early in the 80 game with full pve arcane mages, before a lot went frost. Think I was running 20-22% resil as ret
spriest 100k was in wsg, but only non arena buffs were zeroing and mastery elixir I think, could still get really high with orbs and procs up. Plus they ran spriest/rogue in 2s and were deadly with that high cc/dmg setup even short of 100k crits

Plus you said no class/spec could do it at 80-84, you didn't specify arena XD
 
i eat bad arcanemages.. btw i have about 32%resi and the highest crit i ever got in pvp was a 27k mindblast from a full mastery shadowpriest with 3 orbs, tailoring proc, engi gloves (480 int) and 2 pve cataclysm trinkets
 

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