Shamans: Lava Lash worth it?
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scytale
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Forget Lava Lash imo. You have to use a glyph and give up WF on one of your weapons to use it to the full potential. Not only that, but in PVP you are going to use Stormstrike and your shocks first. While waiting on those CDs, you'll likely have to purge, drop totem(s), wind shear, ghostwolf, etc. While it is only 1 point, I think there's much better places to put it and it's uses are pretty limited.
Now, saying all that, I have never specced lava lash, so I could be full of shit. But generally, I don't think I would have time to fit many Lava Lashes in a typical fight.
Now, saying all that, I have never specced lava lash, so I could be full of shit. But generally, I don't think I would have time to fit many Lava Lashes in a typical fight.
Falkor
Twink Info Legend
i hate lava lash. im a lil jaded since i tried it when it was 1st released and it kept glitching and unleaning the talent point. so i had to deal with that hassel and it scared me. but also it just seems very lackluster and hard to squeeze into an already GCD laden rotation. IMO, not worth it one bit. but feel free to experiment with it.
Naturaltalnt
OG
I believe its more of a end game skill.
Slow/Slow with WF/FT
The only nice thing is that it avoids armor where WF has to go through it.
Slow/Slow with WF/FT
The only nice thing is that it avoids armor where WF has to go through it.
JGWentworth
OG
scytale said:
wind shear isnt on the global cooldown
Grunge
OG
well, if you're running Goosex2 then i'd spring for lava lash.
From what i've played of shaman, wf/ft doesn't have that "poppy" quality of wf/wf, but ft pads your shocks and heals and you get a extra chance to get a goose proc every 6 seconds. I felt like i had more control of a fight with wf/ft, and by the same token i didn't feel like i was relying solely on wf to win me fights.
Like i tell everyone, you have to decide what works for you through experimentation. This is what i found works for me, hope that could help you make a decision.
From what i've played of shaman, wf/ft doesn't have that "poppy" quality of wf/wf, but ft pads your shocks and heals and you get a extra chance to get a goose proc every 6 seconds. I felt like i had more control of a fight with wf/ft, and by the same token i didn't feel like i was relying solely on wf to win me fights.
Like i tell everyone, you have to decide what works for you through experimentation. This is what i found works for me, hope that could help you make a decision.
Falkor
Twink Info Legend
Grunge said:
39 spell power hardly even makes an impact on shocks and heals with out mental quickness. shaman have no "control" (no CC, no stun, etc)...they have burst. so utilize all the burst you have - 2x WF - to drop an enemy ASAP and move on to the next.
as far as enchants go, no reason not to use 2x goose since mental quickness nerf. 30int is ok, but meh.
between SS, shocks, refreshing shields, totems, and purging (not to mention GW, potting, etc) its hard to find a GCD to use with lava lash. if you have absolutely nowhere else to drop that last point, then w/e...its not exactly hurting you, but in all my builds i use that last point elsewhere.
Mjolnir121
OG
Copy&Paste from another thread:
Well, the glyph for Lava Lash is nothing special. I'd take the FB procs over it any day of the week than LL with FT in your OH, glyph or no glyph.
Two WFs is enough to drop most anything, but I prefer not to take up the WF for my MH (internal CDs), causing my OH to drop a WF with the damage and hit penalties. Also, the Frostbrand does benefit your Lava Lash; with Frozen Power, your LL does 5/10% more damage to any target affect by the FB debuff.
Your shocks also do 5/10% more damage with the debuff!
Well, the glyph for Lava Lash is nothing special. I'd take the FB procs over it any day of the week than LL with FT in your OH, glyph or no glyph.
Two WFs is enough to drop most anything, but I prefer not to take up the WF for my MH (internal CDs), causing my OH to drop a WF with the damage and hit penalties. Also, the Frostbrand does benefit your Lava Lash; with Frozen Power, your LL does 5/10% more damage to any target affect by the FB debuff.
Your shocks also do 5/10% more damage with the debuff!
. Going to try to make a good spec with that....scytale
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Scytale said:
JGWentworth said:
Congrats on not contributing to the discussion at all. And I didn't say that wind shear was on the GCD, I said there are more important things to worry about between SS and shock cds. Using a wind shear at the right time beats out paying attention to when you can use lava lash.
Just realized what your name is....I would expect nothing useful from anything associated with JG Wentworth.