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Making a rogue twink and tbh, I hate how gnomes look but love how Night Elves do. I know NE have some decent extra base stats and better stealth but lack the racial gnomes have. I feel a rogue without Escape Artist is useless and will just be constantly kited.

Is NE still viable and can they thrive without the Escape Artist or is it a must as a twink rogue in this bracket?

Thanks.
 
Gnomes will have an advantage in general with escape artist, but if you love the Night Elves then roll one. They have the highest base agility and shadowmeld has its uses.
 
Odiinn said:
Gnomes will have an advantage in general with escape artist, but if you love the Night Elves then roll one. They have the highest base agility and shadowmeld has its uses.
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Thanks for the quick answer!

Anyone else got any point of view. NE still viable?
 
Humans have the bonus to Stealth Detection in this patch; that, extra Mace/Sword skills, and the bonus rep is enough to consider Human as a possible choice for a twink, considering how much time will be spent doing "stuff" on your 19.

Having the upper hand against other stealth classes seems like a nice place to come from in Rogue Wars.
 
Prime Al said:
Humans have the bonus to Stealth Detection in this patch; that, extra Mace/Sword skills, and the bonus rep is enough to consider Human as a possible choice for a twink, considering how much time will be spent doing "stuff" on your 19.

Having the upper hand against other stealth classes seems like a nice place to come from in Rogue Wars.
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Problem is you actually have to use the ability to get increased stealth detection, and in WSG I don't think they will be using it as much, since it will probably be random.

As a NE the stealth increase is constant due to Shadowmeld. More agility means more damage/crit/dodge/armor, but idk if it's worth it without Escape Artist.
 
Everything is viable but the lower the character level, the more I feel gnome and dwarf racials are worthwhile. As less abilities are unlocked, you can remove key abilities with little answers.

On the other hand, 19 has a lot of rogues and hunters in PUGs so the extra stealth vs other rogues might be nice.
 
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Docker said:
Everything is viable but the lower the character level, the more I feel gnome and dwarf racials are worthwhile. As less abilities are unlocked, you can remove key abilities with little answers.

On the other hand, 19 has a lot of rogues and hunters in PUGs so the extra stealth vs other rogues might be nice.
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Thanks for the response!
 
You don't have poisons or cheap shot at 19 so ea is the difference between you killing a hunter/warrior/mage and just being endlessly kited.
 
Stealth is really bad @ 19 meaning rogues don't spend as much time lurking around. The interactions between racials in regard to stealth are basically meaningless in this bracket imo. Stick with considering open combat when choosing a race.

PS: You don't like how gnomes look but like NE... just wtf lol
 
I know I'm late to the party but I wanted to throw in my 2 cents, I played a 19 NE rogue during BC and Wrath. Escape artist might be very nice, but it's not necessary you have other options like PVP Trinket, Discombulator Ray (to slow them down!), Sprint, ect. If NE is more fun, I'd say that's what counts : ) Ignore the naysayers and prove whatever thing you want to play can be played well!
 
The best are gnomes for alliance, undead for horde.

Gnomes get escape artist to get out of slows. Undead get rallying cry to get out of fear.

Night elves are considered the next for alliance best due to high base agi and increased dodge.

Humans can be viable too for 1v1 fights against rogues with perception. But 1v1 fights are all humans are good for.

Orcs are the next best for Horde because of berserking giving a small damage boost.
 
Night elves have 29? or 28 base agility which is the highest among all races, and they have the Quickness Passive which gives 1% dodge, so if you wanted to stack agility and go for a dodge-type twink, you could get up to 60% with nelves. They're also just as viable as any race, but its your choice about whether you want to sacrifice a root-get-out-of-inator™ for dodge/high agi. GL on your decision :D [Edit: dang I'm like a year late to this why did I respond]
 
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even if this thread is necro'ed, I would still like to explain why I don't think gnomes are BiS in 19s
  1. classic 19s only allow you to queue WSG, no other BG
  2. as a rogue, you deal highest dps and will be wanted to go and kill the EFC
  3. you're more than likely to struggle with the horde fence jumps and you will most likely encounter an FC twink who are aware of it and will continuously jump back and forth between the horde fences. Even if you're mediocre at passing the fences, they will still create a gap where you can't catch up with the EFC because e.g. a tauren druid jump much smoother than you
it's better to focus on what race and gender will jump the best in 19s since there's only one battleground available for us
 
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