Raiding TBC content (EU)

Been working on a project on and off that I figured I'd take to a more organized level.



The basic idea is to raid TBC content with a minimum amount of players. I've been doing this on a small scale with a couple of people I already know. I enjoy it a great deal since it gives me a chance to raid great content that I adore to no end (the raids are the reason I have a 70 twink) in a non-trivial, but relaxed, manner.



It's been very low key so far, and as such hasn't resulted in more than lower tier raids (4-man Maulgar, 3-man Gruul, 2-man ZA timed etc.). If a couple of people showed interest, the plan is to try out BT with a small group (5-7 I imagine).



The whole thing would go on in a relaxed manner in regards to time frames. "Raids" would be planned and conducted one by one, whenever people had time (it doesn't have to be in the evenings). All that's required is a fair level of mastery and knowledge of your class, coupled with raiding experience. It doesn't necessarily have to be Rank 50 kills, but it's unlikely that anybody with a subpar raiding track record would be cut out for this.



By no means is this difficult or challenging in the traditional sense of the word, that which is thrown around so lightly on WoW forums. It can present a challenge from time to time, and the reason I enjoy it is the coupling of practical execution with planning required. 3- or 4-manning a 25-man raid boss sometimes requires one to think unconventionally and put certain class abilities to use in order to overcome mechanics designed for a larger raid - using a tactic you thought up yourself and can't read on some website. Thus, I wouldn't describe it as hard, but rather a fun challenge.
 
We decided to give BT a shot, and though the raid was cut short due to a couple of people having to leave, we had our fun and even wound up with a little something to show for it.



Right outside BT we ran into Doomwalker. An 85 druid managed to deal 300k damage to him before we could convince him to stop. Though the soft enrage at 20% might pose a problem with 3 people, it's certainly doable. Next spawn maybe!



Doomwalker 4-man / Damage



Naj'entus has a tight enrage timer when 3-manning, so we brought in a fourth, but I'm convinced it's possible with a Resto Shaman, Affliction Warlock and a tank in DPS gear (perhaps other setups as well). Edit: Completed with Resto Shaman, Boomkin and Blood DK.



Naj'entus 4-man / Damage



Supremus' enrage timer is more lenient, and while a kite phase with 3 people sets high requirements in terms of positioning, it's also a very healing intensive encounter.



Supremus 3-man / Damage / Tank / Healing



Hopefully we'll have more kills up soon :)



Edit: Figured I might as well post the Gruul's Lair kills from April.



Maulgar 4-man / Damage / Tank



Gruul 3-man
 
I'm back from vacation and Naj'entus has fallen to the three man army!



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Akama is next!
 
just to put things into perspective.



Solo: Lich King



that is, if a good DK can solo lich king, you should be able to solo a lot of the TBC contents, not all of course, but a lot.
 
Sanitarium said:
Just as stupid as ever, I see.



still stalking me like always, i see.



hey at least you are not a mod now: you can't lock/delete my threads/posts just because you don't like me anymore.
 
i dont need to be a mod to get your posts deleted, locked and infracted. you do a fine job of that yourself, posting videos, links and other such stuff thats completely unrelated to 70 content.
 
glancealot said:
that is, if a good DK can solo lich king, you should be able to solo a lot of the TBC contents, not all of course, but a lot.



how does that relate down to 70 at all, you shmuck. why couldnt you just stay away when you said you were leaving at 1k posts?
 
glancealot said:
that is, if a good DK can solo lich king, you should be able to solo a lot of the TBC contents, not all of course, but a lot.



The video you linked is of a level 85 Death Knight soloing a level 80 10-man raid boss. This thread is about level 70's 3-manning level 70 25-man raid bosses.



Let's take a look at what is realistically soloable at 70 for a Death Knight:

Have soloed: Attumen, Maiden, Chess, Servant Quarters (Spider / Bat / Dog)

Maybe possible: Illhoof, Moroes, Nightbane, Aran

Impossible: Rest of Karazhan, ZA and 25-man raids



I've soloed all heroics (including optional bosses) apart from Old Hillsbrad, Magister's Terrace and Black Morass (where I got to wave 13).



Mione and Raegwynn are far more skilled and dedicated than me when it comes to soloing bosses, but that doesn't mean they'd be able to solo content that is impossible. Death Knights at 70 lose out on Blood Shield, Epidemic, Outbreak, ERW and Lichborne, which means they have far less self healing. If you want to put things into perspective, you could argue that I should be able to solo 10-man raids from an expansion below me (AQ20) - but then again, since the scaling from 80-85 was proportionally way bigger than the one from 60-70, and the amount of self healing DK's lose at 70 compared to 85, that would not be correct either. I've killed Moam, Kurinnaxx and Thekal, but I dinged shortly before ZG got removed, so with better gear I might have been able to do Mandokir and some other ZG bosses I never attempted.



Never the less, if you are able to solo anything I'm not, without relying on linking videos to other people's achievements, I'll gladly acknowledge your superior skills.
 
fair enough, how many people(again, 70's only of course!) have you done SWP with?
 
Haven't attempted it with fewer players yet, but will try to do a 10-man run in the near future, just to get things started. Brutallus might be possible with 7, but I think 8 is more realistic. Felmyst could be about the same, but then again, I could be completely off with these numbers, as I've never tried SWP with less than twenty 70s.
 
While I appreciate the interest shown, I've received quite a few PM's from people that either see this as an opportunity to gear up their current twink, or want to level a new twink on Frostwhisper to be geared up by me. It doesn't require BiS gear, but it must be visible that you've put effort into making the character suitable for raiding. Attempting 25-man raid encounters with sometimes as little as three people often requires a lot in terms of DPS, TPS, EH and healing, so while it's important that it's a skilled person controlling the character, there is no use for a freshly dinged 70 in Brutal gear.



Currently very interested in getting a good Warlock and Mage, and maybe a Protection Warrior. If you're skilled, there's always an opportunity to join, no matter which class (the exception being Rogue - have enough of those).
 

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