Old 19 rogue, should I level to 24?

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Greetings! I have just returned to WoW, I'm most likely never going to do endgame again, I'm so tired of being at the top, then a new patch comes out and it's the same stuff all over again, therefore I might just stay with twinking. It's not as time consuming either.



Well now to the point. I got this old level 19 rogue twink, heres the armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/tarren-mill/Cosp/simple



I hear 19's dead, and that 20-24 is the new thing. I'm wondering, would it be worth just leveling my 19 rogue to 24, and also, does my 19 rogue actually have any Grandfathered items that are good? (got blackened defias armor not equipped). Looking for some opinions on this.



Cheers.
 
IMO it is always better to make a new twink than to take an old one to a higher level. Especially considering your 19 doesn't have max profs or AGMs yet.



None of the GF gear you have equipped (nor Defias) is BiS for a main set, but it wouldn't take much to update. Quest rewards, a few dungeon drops and some BoA and you're solid.



Do you have easy access to BoA items via an 85? Even if not, you could farm up some items just by playing WSG on the 19.



If you want a 24, definitely make a new 24 though. 19s in the US are quite active and as I understand it the same is true on EU.
 
auctually 19's r pretty active now, and ur rogue has tunic of westfall which could be considered bis, as no one has auctually set down yet and done the math comparing it with the boa body, and the difference of ap/crit gained by tunic of westfall vs the extra white hits gained from the hit rating of boa chest.



ur rogue needs alota work to be up to date, but having the tunic of westfall is a start.
 
Meh, regardless of how bad the bracket is, I updated my old priest with like full gf gear, got sick after like 3 games, but will never level him. Maybe someday the bracket will be somewhat balanced and I'll enjoy it again. Can't de level characters so
 
keep him you have a bit of work cut out for you but a toon with tunic of westfall is somthng you should invest you time in u also got some gfathered enchnats and wrynn there so make a few minor ajustments (boa helm{lfh if u cant get}profs, agm, a few misc boes) and you should be good
 
keep him you have a bit of work cut out for you but a toon with tunic of westfall is somthng you should invest you time in u also got some gfathered enchnats and wrynn there so make a few minor ajustments (boa helm{lfh if u cant get}profs, agm, a few misc boes) and you should be good



Hmm, which enchants are grandfathered?
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, and are Assassins blade Bis daggers still or?
 
24's are very boring, you destroy most of the legit 20's and you dont even need to have bis gear yourself. Not worth losing tunic of westfall over, just re-roll another rogue and lvl to 24 in a few hours and try it out with him.



The only thing that sucks about gearing up a bis 24 rogue is the gnomer runs. The rings from there are bis, they dont always drop, and when they do you have to hope they are the right kind like of the monkey, tiger, or agility. Also the wrist sucks because it drops off a rare spawn, and drops in different types liek the rings, and best stat giving ranged weapon also drops from that same mob. If you want a belt that gives the most agility youll have to do a bunch of stv quests ( its a green belt ilvl 29or something i dno).



comparing a bis 19 rogue to a bis 24 rogue------19 rogue is easier but much more expensive due to cost of shadowfangs, but 24 rogue takes alot of time to get the right items. also petrospill leggings are kind of rare and expensive.





lvl 19 rogue:

http://chardev.org/?profile=326101



Bis imo, but some peaple may switch the tunic with boa chest and replace ellos band with a 2nd argas. Also feet of the lynx with cobrahns maybe, depending if they want more crit. Neither build has been proven better yet, but the popular belief is that the extra hit rating gained from the boa chest adds more dps thru white hits than the tunic does thru crit/attack power.



lvl 24 rogue (high attack power build)



http://chardev.org/?profile=326097

or

http://chardev.org/?profile=326120

or

http://chardev.org/?profile=326121

(theres auctually quite a few different builds imo, depending on if you want to be hit capped, or MAX ap, or have more stamana)





A 24 rogues gameplay changes alot from a rogue in the 19 bracket. In the 24 bracket you can easily match the opness of a lvl 19 hunter, if not surpass it. With ambushes well over 1k, and vanish 24 rogues are very strong. The need for more stamana becomes less important and attack power becomes most important imo, because if you stack enough ap you can 1-2 hit almost everyone, and then gtfo of there with vanish if you get into trouble.





I linked the chardevs because by looking at them you could judge how much work goes into either one, and which one appeals to you the most. Sorry about the huge ass post.
 
Nono, don't apologize for making a huge post, makes it more interesting to me :p



I got a F2P horde resto shaman, and I do enjoy that bracket, I can see shadowfangs being expensive, I guess they will always be BiS, how many posts are needed to get into the marketplace forum?
 
Nono, don't apologize for making a huge post, makes it more interesting to me :p



I got a F2P horde resto shaman, and I do enjoy that bracket, I can see shadowfangs being expensive, I guess they will always be BiS, how many posts are needed to get into the marketplace forum?



I believe it's 50 posts to get into marketplace, also I can tell you that games in the EU are far from dead, guilds are getting bigger and a couple of premades have been fought in the past few weeks. I would say definitely gear up your rogue, then, if you are so inclined, maybe xfer to one of the more high populated twink servers (this isnt a necessity as all the battlegroups have been merged, but IMO it makes queueing more fun, as youll have like-minded people to talk to and/or duel.) Best of luck gearing up, and Damage123's post is infinitely helpful in helping you decide what to do ^^
 
I can see shadowfangs being expensive, I guess they will always be BiS, how many posts are needed to get into the marketplace forum?



I think it is 50 and the problem with Shadowfang is that it costs 50-75k each (I wouldn't go above 75) and while it is best, all that time spent farming gold could be better spent knowing your character. A new fully bis with character with Shadowfang would still get destroyed by a rogue like Sneaky, or Tril, etc. when they aren't using their Shadowfangs.



I'd get all the other gear first, then enchants and everything, and get fully bis besides SF, then decide whether to get them or not. So basically I'm saying SF isn't so important if you are starting out
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Hmm it appears I have some more GF'd stuff in my bank:

Blackened Defias Belt (Not used)

Butcher's Slicer

Blackened Defias Armor

Meadow Ring of Eluding (Still good?)

Ruby Shades (xD)

Deviate Scale Belt
 
i reccommend gearing your twink according to the gear guides on this forum and applying at www.qitbb.wowstead.com.
 
Personally I'd say stay 19 if you weren't a rogue just for the fact that 85% of level 19s are either hunters or rogue twinks.
 

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