Oi mates, my opinion. Cheers.

Drugs

Drugs

The Dude Abides
Please listen to me, my friends, New and veterans alike. Let me break it down for you very clearly. Let me begin by saying, historically, I've had a tough time with Agonist and Pizza. I used to have a very problematic relationship with Pizza and Skill Ratio. I had a very narrow issue with some of their practices. While both of us fucked up in some parts, we were able to make amends.

At a certain point, my friends, you gotta fuckin grow up. Pizza, whether you like it or not, at a certain point humbled himself, as I will right now. Many of the outspoken people you hate, !9 or 29 or 39, I don't give a fuck, attracted more attention to this forum than we have seen in a long time. You hate Agonist? Fuck him, I never fucked with him. Guess what, his forum spurred an incredible amount of activity on the site. Pizza? You hated getting farmed during Cata? He's a prominent figure we need in our bracket and he's moved beyond it. Whether community members like it or not, having the sporadic bullshit thread where we bullshit for several pages is not harmful. Sorry, had to say it.

Agonist's threads, in moderation, are healthy for this bracket. I've been here long enough to tell you that we need bullshit threads that spur antagonism. We need threads that spur some wicked bullshit that pit certain members against eachother. Guess what, that's called competition. And it's what this forum has relied on for a long fucking time. However, I would never elect Agonist a moderator. What this great bracket forum needs is a mix of Agonist's forums, and some shit about how you should gear your rogue. If you're a new guy, sure, you want to come to this forum to learn what the fuck you need to do. But guess what, a lot of veterans enjoy the occasional bullshit thread that allows us to fuck around with some of our boys. As the saying goes, boys will be boys. Luckily, not all of us are assholes, and II know many follow me in this regard. And I promise you new guys I, among many others, will work to help you be the badass mother fucking twink you wanna be, Ay brotha, lets fuck some shit up, Pierce Brosnan James Bond style my bull lets ride.

Gentlemen, I have been a detractor to Pizza and Agonist and the GY farming from these guys for a long time. Agonist has changed his ways. His points regarding consent among the community are well-grounded. Believe it or not, these guys care about our community SO MUCH. and they will do anything they can to support it, as you have seen. Pizza has taken it upon himself to be a more fair, and most importantly, a more active, credible, and respectful member of our community. I am personally sick of you dicks taking so much spite out on the moderators when it truly is us, the community, being disrespectful dicks. I've outlined my strategy for a better moderation system many times; you are welcome to take a look at it, and, more importantly, donate to help us make some fucking changes. Until then, I love all you bastards and stay cool as fuck as you all continue to be.
 
ayyyy drugs love u mejt
 
Drugs said:
You hate Agonist? Fuck him, I never fucked with him. Guess what, his forum spurred an incredible amount of activity on the site. Pizza? You hated getting farmed during Cata? He's a prominent figure we need in our bracket and he's moved beyond it.
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You lost me here.
 
I mean look, the thing here is that no one is contributing jack shit to this site. They all point the finger at me and say my threads are shit, toxic and crap but they never go out of the way to create any of the ''information'' they expect as the standard of TI. I think Pizza does a good job with his stream occupying interest to the bracket. He's a good leader and is the staple for competition in the 19 bracket. If you got rid of him this bracket would suffer.

Most of my threads have addressed moderating, an issue which still wasn't fixed after Shane left. Myrm has made a huge step with this site in getting rid of censorship. Thankfully the terrible mods like Robo and Mocha have also been cast out. I understand that Pizza wants a ''professional'' site for twinks. That is why I posed the suggestion, why have a forum? Why don't we just have a site with articles that give straight information about everything we need to know about twinking? Guides, events, gearing lists etc.

The thing here is that alot of people hate me, I get it. I will be looked down upon with my confrontational and aggressive threads, that is fine. I am beyond caring what people in this bracket think of me. I will speak my mind, something alot of people are afraid to do on this site. Hate me or not you can't deny this forum increases in activty whenever I make a thread.
 
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everything feels stale.

no good forum posts at all not even a guide or a drama post or a best of list.

pugs have been the same for months. really bland not really all that fun. id say group queuing would be fun if we could get 5 mans on either side but i dont think it'll help much

the nwl is really the only thing im playing wow for right now
 
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I like HBs idea of seperating the forums and useful content into different parts of the website once xenforo comes along
 
This is probably way off topic but, I may be newer to this bracket but damn the activity lately has just died down so badly lately in my opinion. We need something more than the NWL games to keep everyone playing like I have seen before in many posts from different people.

We need to have other types of tournies. Yes we did a few 2's tournies but a good amount of people seemed to be getting bored. We should try 3's tournies with different rules. Or maybe doing a what I think is called a gauntlet, where it is 5's but you do 1v1's until one team loses every player.

That is just two ideas I thought of, one by a few others from talking to and one that I ran once out of nowhere and was a blast. It's up to the community to do these or not, but hey I say let's give them both a shot.
 
In the Warcraft Hunters Union, back in tBC, hundreds of us 10-19 hunters would get together and go kill Felreaver.

/cheers
 
rusks said:
everything feels stale.

no good forum posts at all not even a guide or a drama post or a best of list.

pugs have been the same for months. really bland not really all that fun. id say group queuing would be fun if we could get 5 mans on either side but i dont think it'll help much

the nwl is really the only thing im playing wow for right now
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best of lists usually come with alot of fun "drama" or fun comments, guide idk. And general drama threads are also super fun imo and I love agonist for the ones he has done.
 
Drugs said:
Please listen to me, my friends, New and veterans alike. Let me break it down for you very clearly. Let me begin by saying, historically, I've had a tough time with Agonist and Pizza. I used to have a very problematic relationship with Pizza and Skill Ratio. I had a very narrow issue with some of their practices. While both of us fucked up in some parts, we were able to make amends.

At a certain point, my friends, you gotta fuckin grow up. Pizza, whether you like it or not, at a certain point humbled himself, as I will right now. Many of the outspoken people you hate, !9 or 29 or 39, I don't give a fuck, attracted more attention to this forum than we have seen in a long time. You hate Agonist? Fuck him, I never fucked with him. Guess what, his forum spurred an incredible amount of activity on the site. Pizza? You hated getting farmed during Cata? He's a prominent figure we need in our bracket and he's moved beyond it. Whether community members like it or not, having the sporadic bullshit thread where we bullshit for several pages is not harmful. Sorry, had to say it.

Agonist's threads, in moderation, are healthy for this bracket. I've been here long enough to tell you that we need bullshit threads that spur antagonism. We need threads that spur some wicked bullshit that pit certain members against eachother. Guess what, that's called competition. And it's what this forum has relied on for a long fucking time. However, I would never elect Agonist a moderator. What this great bracket forum needs is a mix of Agonist's forums, and some shit about how you should gear your rogue. If you're a new guy, sure, you want to come to this forum to learn what the fuck you need to do. But guess what, a lot of veterans enjoy the occasional bullshit thread that allows us to fuck around with some of our boys. As the saying goes, boys will be boys. Luckily, not all of us are assholes, and II know many follow me in this regard. And I promise you new guys I, among many others, will work to help you be the badass mother fucking twink you wanna be, Ay brotha, lets fuck some shit up, Pierce Brosnan James Bond style my bull lets ride.

Gentlemen, I have been a detractor to Pizza and Agonist and the GY farming from these guys for a long time. Agonist has changed his ways. His points regarding consent among the community are well-grounded. Believe it or not, these guys care about our community SO MUCH. and they will do anything they can to support it, as you have seen. Pizza has taken it upon himself to be a more fair, and most importantly, a more active, credible, and respectful member of our community. I am personally sick of you dicks taking so much spite out on the moderators when it truly is us, the community, being disrespectful dicks. I've outlined my strategy for a better moderation system many times; you are welcome to take a look at it, and, more importantly, donate to help us make some fucking changes. Until then, I love all you bastards and stay cool as fuck as you all continue to be.
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Mate, you played horde in cata, you simply don't understand. So don't try to act like cata didn't happen, these people ie Pizza are hated for what they did and always will be. And jesus christ the hate they did right as mop came out(re-roll instead of sticking to the class). But at least they make it competitive.

Drugs, there is nothing they can do to repay their sins. So don't try to make that happen. Sure we have respect for them but when you act like children for years while they are both older then 20 at the time?

To me they will always be sad on the inside.
 
The "love marriage" spam has been what has driven the recent "spike" in activity, moreso than any 1 twink. I thought I was going to find out some cool psychic shit, but it's just spam :(
 
i like how iirc [MENTION=6446]Mocha[/MENTION] or someone phrased it..

''electing your preferred twink moderator from this website is like letting inmates pick their preferred prison guard''

not that they'd have anywhere the same effect in general, but there is no real logical reasoning to mod anyone new at this point, just potentially reduce the current # of mods & make it smaller until its only the mods who don't get criticized as a result of doing things that people deem questionable, will be better than adding a new unpredictable human being to the roster, as many on this forum are

Drugs brought up some decent points, lets not lie to ourselves... Most people are against someone like Agonist being a mod for real lol, he cant be who he is/"plays" on the twinkinfo.com forums if hes also a moderator imo

being moderator needs to be something the person whos given it will actually deem as a responsibility, good moderator candidates will accept & already understand prior to becoming one that their posting habits/responsibilities to the website would have to change significantly(if you post like Agonist has) since you become one of the forums' janitor.. no one whos controversial to majority of the site should be allowed in that position, to minimize bad outcome
 
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Shock hunter said:
Mate, you played horde in cata, you simply don't understand. So don't try to act like cata didn't happen, these people ie Pizza are hated for what they did and always will be. And jesus christ the hate they did right as mop came out(re-roll instead of sticking to the class). But at least they make it competitive.

Drugs, there is nothing they can do to repay their sins. So don't try to make that happen. Sure we have respect for them but when you act like children for years while they are both older then 20 at the time?

To me they will always be sad on the inside.
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I agree with you mate. In many ways its unforgivable. We can only try.
 
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