New DDoser (or newly caught)

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MYT

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Here's the backstory - MYT had planned to play Cyberbully's team around 8pm. 8pm comes, we're ready, there's nobody to play. Annoying, but what can you do? Anyways around 10 we start doing 10v10 two MYT teams (with maybe one person outside guild helping) and then at 10:30 or so Cyber's guild starts demanding we play them then. Needless to say we're fine with our intraguild games because they are actually happening and it's good/competitive games. So we say "wait". Apparently they didn't take that well. Puju (who I admittedly don't know) says what you see in the screenshot. Around that same time Gotdatgreen gets DDosed.

I've been very lenient about reformed DDosers personally.....although not everyone in my guild agrees. But current ones I cannot tolerate. So I'm going to take a stand - we won't premade a team that has Puju on it. We run wargames several nights a week. Hopefully his guild will deal with him (and by deal I mean boot), but if they choose not to then either they sit him or else we don't play them. Plenty of other teams we can play that won't DDos us.

If he cleans up his act and down the road he is a "former DDoser", I'm happy to reassess. But for now MYT won't play a team with this guy on it. DDosing is entirely unacceptable and needs to be dealt with like this by all teams for it to finally end.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that ZNG was pushing 30k MS later that night and got DC'ed twice in that same game. Not sure if that was same guy DDOsing but certainly could have been. First time ZNG has had connection problems ever btw.
 
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Lynch the ddoser! Lynch him!
 
I somehow knew that trolls would troll even when someone gets caught red handed. Which is exactly why this behavior continues in this bracket - because it's tolerated.

Cheers to my guild for being one group of people that won't tolerateit. Hope others in position to make decisions follow suite. Regardless, he won't be in a game against us - period.
 
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People should always take distance from ddosers, but what I find most important, and this aint pointed at anyone at all, is to be careful with the gun before firing it. It is possible that people simply have a bad connection one day and the next day it will be fine again,. All I am saying is It can have serious consequences for a person being labeled as a ddoser and it would be sad to see that happening for anyone, specially if the person get called out for being a ddoser and have done nothing wrong after all.
 
Apologize if it came off as sarcasm (if your post was directed at me, MYT), I legit meant lets lynch him >: ).

Also I believe Gotdatgreen himself also does "DDoSing" though I'm not exactly "Computer savvy" So I wouldn't be able to guarantee or prove it either way.

I'm rambling - lol, regardless, I hope this "Puju" fella gets whats coming to him, and I, personally, will never be associating with him.

Thanks for the post MYT, no disrespect intended!
 
Shamatix said:
People should always take distance from ddosers, but what I find most important, and this aint pointed at anyone at all, is to be careful with the gun before firing it. It is possible that people simply have a bad connection one day and the next day it will be fine again,. All I am saying is It can have serious consequences for a person being labeled as a ddoser and it would be sad to see that happening for anyone, specially if the person get called out for being a ddoser and have done nothing wrong after all.
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This is a very real issue and I agree. People have accused some people that xferred to my guild of DDosing based on circumstantial evidence only (such as when I see them in a game I get DDosed, therefore it's them)....and I disagree with that approach completely.
 
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Those keybinds tho
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Cyberbully just condoned his teammate DDosing. So I'll include Cyberbully on the list of people that won't be in games against us. Whether it's your own team or you sneaking your way onto the other arthas guild's team and then badmouthing them afterwards (demonstrating your complete lack of class), we won't play teams you're on. Only way to deal with DDosers and their supporters is to make it so they're excluded. MYT will take the first step to make that happen.

We're happy to play anyone in wargames - but if you plan on including Cyber or Puju against us don't bother asking us to play. You're free to support current DDosers, and we're free to exclude you from games against us.
 
MYT said:
This is a very real issue and I agree. People have accused some people that xferred to my guild of DDosing based on circumstantial evidence only (such as when I see them in a game I get DDosed, therefore it's them)....and I disagree with that approach completely.
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As I wrote I werent pointing fingers at anyone, but just saying I think people should be careful in the future and make sure they have proof of the person ddosing before shooting at them. This ddosing really seems like it's going out of hand, more and more seems to be doing it (Sorry if I am wrong) but I also think that could cause innocent people in the future to be shot at for no reason. I aint trying to defend the guy you have posted a screenshot of in this thread, far from. But I am just trying to avoid something that could potentially be happening in the future. As you wrote "People have accused some people that xferred to my guild of DDosing based on circumstantial evidence only (such as when I see them in a game I get DDosed, therefore it's them)." This is exactly why I am writing as I do, I would really try to avoid that for the future, there is no reason for people that has nothing to do with anything to be caught in the middle.
 
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Saxxon said:
Apologize if it came off as sarcasm (if your post was directed at me, MYT), I legit meant lets lynch him >: ).

Also I believe Gotdatgreen himself also does "DDoSing" though I'm not exactly "Computer savvy" So I wouldn't be able to guarantee or prove it either way.

I'm rambling - lol, regardless, I hope this "Puju" fella gets whats coming to him, and I, personally, will never be associating with him.

Thanks for the post MYT, no disrespect intended!
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Was more directed at the witch hunt comment but thx for clarifying Saxxon.

As far as Gotdatgreen I have yet to see a single piece of evidence that he's ever been involved in DDosing. A few people have accused him but nobody has presented an evidence....so sounds to me like it's a he said / she said game. As barb's screenshots and this stuff with Puju shows, people that actually DDos will get caught. While I've decided to forgive people that did it and swore it off, I do think when we catch people doing it currently we need to take action. So appreciate you seeing things eye to eye with me on that.
 
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Was more directed at the witch hunt comment but thx for clarifying Saxxon.

As far as Gotdatgreen I have yet to see a single piece of evidence that he's ever been involved in DDosing. A few people have accused him but nobody has presented an evidence....so sounds to me like it's a he said / she said game. As barb's screenshots and this stuff with Puju shows, people that actually DDos will get caught. While I've decided to forgive people that did it and swore it off, I do think when we catch people doing it currently we need to take action. So appreciate you seeing things eye to eye with me on that.
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Yeah, the Gotdatgreen "is a DDoser" is something I've only heard from word of mouth so in my eyes he is still innocent.
As far as Puju is concerned the evidence is clearly there, and those kind of real ID comments, even in jest, shouldn't be tolerated. I know my team and hopefully all others will boycott games with this man involved.

Stronger communities together. Through word of mouth we can successfully keep players like this out of wargames and hopefully out of the Twink Cup.
 
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Yeah, the Gotdatgreen "is a DDoser" is something I've only heard from word of mouth so in my eyes he is still innocent.
As far as Puju is concerned the evidence is clearly there, and those kind of real ID comments, even in jest, shouldn't be tolerated. I know my team and hopefully all others will boycott games with this man involved.

Stronger communities together. Through word of mouth we can successfully keep players like this out of wargames and hopefully out of the Twink Cup.
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Speaking of the jest thing I agree - I have some sarcastic people in guild and I'm CONSTANTLY bugging them to not even joke about it in gchat or voicecomm even. For that very reason.

It's the combination of Puju saying that and Gotdatgreen getting hit offline right then (which the 20 of us wargaming can attest to) that makes it caught red handed. If it was just the comment with no kicked offline I wouldn't have even cared (even if in guild I don't want people joking about it).
 
Yeah, to many times people put themselves at risk by "joking" about knocking people offline, the comments are completely unnecessary and are a fast way to get yourself isolated from the rest of the bracket.

In today's age, someone will usually be streaming, so saying it in voice chat, even as a joke, can easily be taken out of context as well. The best way to remain safe is just to keep the silly comments to yourself! It's not even funny at this point.
 
While I suppose it could be some good info to have, I must question whether the entire community needs to know that you won't be premading some dude's guild.
 
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Is there anyway to protect yourself from ddosing? Or to track who ddosed you, apart from stupid messages?
 
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