New 39 Druid

littledjt

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Hello i'm getting excited to make my druid and have a few questions about resto.

1. When focusing on stats are haste or crit important? Does having a little of each help much or would it be more efficient to stack one or the other?

2. Is wearing leather over cloth important or help much?



i've searched around and could find little to none in terms of advice. It seems like 39 resto druids aren't very popular but if you anyone has anything to say to help me build one i'd appreciate it :)



Thankyou!
 
littledjt said:
Hello i'm getting excited to make my druid and have a few questions about resto.

1. When focusing on stats are haste or crit important? Does having a little of each help much or would it be more efficient to stack one or the other?

2. Is wearing leather over cloth important or help much?



i've searched around and could find little to none in terms of advice. It seems like 39 resto druids aren't very popular but if you anyone has anything to say to help me build one i'd appreciate it :)



Thankyou!
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Haste > Crit.



Leather vs Cloth doesn't matter very much. If the stats are better than use it.



If you have any other questions, ask them away.
 
thankyou mcer. when you see successful resto druids are they running balanced sets or heavily towards one stat?
 
littledjt said:
thankyou mcer. when you see successful resto druids are they running balanced sets or heavily towards one stat?
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Sadly I can't say. I have yet to see 1 Resto Druid. Saw my first boomkin tonight on horde.



Try using this build: chardev 8 - WoW Cataclysm
 
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when i heal i usually heal as balance since it has more utility and the heals arent too mcuh dif (300 rejuv crits in balance vs 400 in resto) but as a boomkin you get typhoon and solar beam which are very useful. having moonkin form allows you to still break roots as well, even though it requires 1 extra shift.



there is a lot of dispels in the bracket so its hard to get swiftmends off





edit: also, i've been slacking with trying for rev gloves so thats why i still of those gloves of resto on and unchanted
 
hey thanks for the response oknob. im interested to know if you are comfortable with your survivability in that gear? and do you enjoy the haste stacking?
 
i would like to have some more stam, but i dont really want to sac haste or any of the crit i have for it. most times it's just a matter of running away from whatever gets on you anyway so as long as you can survive an opener, you should be ok in a lot of situations.



another thing that i like about balance is the talent that procs for 15% more haste when i use insect swarm. even though its a 1 min internal CD, it still allows me to have around 40% haste every 1 minute. i have the haste trinket from EPL too that i swap in at times too, i've had bad luck with the noxxion trinket on my druid.



for the time being, i find the haste better for healing as balance since it lets my hots tick quicker which makes it more likely to get at least some of the heal off before its dispelled and it allows for better regrowth/nourish spam. once 4.1 goes live and all heal crits will be +100% as opposed to +50% like they are now, crit might end up being more valuable. we'll see i guess. overall, druid heals are just weak so playing more like utility than a healer is the way to go right now.
 
Running around with 2.7k Hp is unacceptable unless your a fire mage or an ambush rogue.
 
I used to have a 39 resto druid which has now been levelled on to 60, and ultimately now to 70.



I can`t speak of how it is recently for a resto druid in this bracket, but I know back then suvivability could be tough if you didn`t have sufficent health. I can`t imagine what it is like to be a resto druid nowadays, probably why you see so few of them. I would definitely give priority to having a good health pool for that class whilst maintaining decent healing/damage. (Don`t ask me the ideal ratio, perhaps 3-3.2k health and stack the SP as high as poss from there?).
 
Mrcer said:
Running around with 2.7k Hp is unacceptable unless your a fire mage or an ambush rogue.
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Sorry if it sounded rude at first Kempo...Your stats on your druid are quite nice, but for example, my rogue can almost crit over 3.2k dmg in 2 hits on cloth/leather users. So if your running around with 2.7k hp...your gonna get killed pretty fast ):



Now don't get me wrong, Haste is the one thing that makes druids so good. And in the next patch, Crit will also be really valuable for all healers. But if I were you, I'd try going for more survival/health stats until you feel as though you are no longer an "easy target". Start with this build first if you plan on making a Resto Druid: chardev 8 - WoW Cataclysm



Once you've gotten the hang of your druid, if you feel as though you aren't dying very much then you could change things up. You could put +12 int on wrist instead of +12 stam. You could use the BoA Shoulders instead of the revelosh ones. You could use the BoA Chest instead of the green whelp armor. You could use haste rings instead of the underworld bands, etc etc. I would start with that gear first until your comfortable with your druid. The 39 bracket would be a lot more balanced for druids if they had nature's grasp but sadly you guys don't have it ):



EDIT: If you feel you STILL need more survival, get yourself a Gem-Studded Leather Belt and that should do it. If you STILLL need more survival even with all that, you could start using Dead Man's Hand.
 
Resto druid is probably the worst healer in the bracket. Rejuv only ticking for ~220 (hit), regrowth healing for 500 and costing a ton of mana, no NS+HT combo available, nourish healing for little and taking long to cast, easily dispelled HoT's, low armor...



Luckily we got roots and high mobility.



I would personally go balance as someone else in this thread suggested. You can act as a support role, sit back until you get eclipse, then starsurge and try to burst someone down in combo with Nature's Grace (15% haste) and maybe lifeblood (~11% haste).
 
Mrcer said:
Sorry if it sounded rude at first Kempo...Your stats on your druid are quite nice, but for example, my rogue can almost crit over 3.2k dmg in 2 hits on cloth/leather users. So if your running around with 2.7k hp...your gonna get killed pretty fast ):



Now don't get me wrong, Haste is the one thing that makes druids so good. And in the next patch, Crit will also be really valuable for all healers. But if I were you, I'd try going for more survival/health stats until you feel as though you are no longer an "easy target". Start with this build first if you plan on making a Resto Druid: chardev 8 - WoW Cataclysm



Once you've gotten the hang of your druid, if you feel as though you aren't dying very much then you could change things up. You could put +12 int on wrist instead of +12 stam. You could use the BoA Shoulders instead of the revelosh ones. You could use the BoA Chest instead of the green whelp armor. You could use haste rings instead of the underworld bands, etc etc. I would start with that gear first until your comfortable with your druid. The 39 bracket would be a lot more balanced for druids if they had nature's grasp but sadly you guys don't have it ):



EDIT: If you feel you STILL need more survival, get yourself a Gem-Studded Leather Belt and that should do it. If you STILLL need more survival even with all that, you could start using Dead Man's Hand.
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i totally understand what you're saying mc, no offense taken either, i dont mind criticism and explaining my position.



basically even in the odd situation when im in my stam set (had to pick up a flag/regrab or something), i still get squashed fairly easy since my heals cant really keep up with any of the dmg being thrown at me. i do have a gem-studded belt as well as the inscription OH with the use for a heal. i have enough gear that i can swap in pieces for just about any situation on him (minus resists cus i just dont have that much bag room) but i really like the look of him in my current gear...except the staff doesnt quite work but meh lol. also i will have some more stam once i finally get rev gloves and my noxxion trinket so i will be closer to 2900-3k



when i gear i dont always gear BiS for every slot/spec/class, sometimes i'll take something slightly "inferior" because i prefer the look of it with what i currently have equipped, but thats just me. some people are anal about being BiS in everything...and that's fine too.



once 4.2 hits and crits are so much more valuable i will probably sac 5-10% haste for more crit but we'll see how things go.



also, i do still have to drop inscription one of these days and take herbalism. i've just been busy with other toons lately since its not as fun as it could be to play a non-feral druid lately lol.
 
You could just roll a feral druid and rape faces :)
 
Haste is sexy - I might be coming back soon and rebuilding my resto twinking guide. Haste helps your hots tick faster, which is pretty sick when scaled down to lvl 39.



Restos are not the best healers, however they are an amazing survivalist in terms of all the things they can do. Versatile playing is really epic.
 
vinod said:
Haste is sexy - I might be coming back soon and rebuilding my resto twinking guide. Haste helps your hots tick faster, which is pretty sick when scaled down to lvl 39.



Restos are not the best healers, however they are an amazing survivalist in terms of all the things they can do. Versatile playing is really epic.
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The only problem I see with trying to stack haste on a resto druid is ideally you need to get 12.5%, I believe, to get the extra tick off of Rejuv, for example. Now I know it will reduce the time between hot ticks and reduce cast times, but you would have to sacrifice an awful lot of stats to make that amount.



I guess the question is "Is it worth stacking haste to that point, versus the stat loss?".
 
The real problem is rogues. If you dont have enough health to sustain their 2 attack burst dmg, then it doesnt matter if your the best resto druid in the world. your still gonna die in 2 hits.
 
Mrcer said:
The real problem is rogues. If you dont have enough health to sustain their 2 attack burst dmg, then it doesnt matter if your the best resto druid in the world. your still gonna die in 2 hits.
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This was the only real problem I found when playing my resto, even back when burst was a lot less. I ran with about 3.1k health with MoTW and Rum back then, I imagine anything less than that now would be a little pointless (at least till they sort lower level PvP out, if they ever do).
 
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