rishi said:
FC Build
You hardly spend any time casting in a BG, and even less time casting if youre spec'ed FC. That little bit of regeneration is targeted at raiders for sustained fights, not quick battles in BGs.
I cast Poly, R1 Frostbolt, Nova, keep Mana Shield up, CoC to slow etc etc. I cannot tell you how many times that mana-regen has helped me when specced Arcane.
rishi said:
Presence of Mind is useless.
What!? You're claiming that an instant Poly to deny burst is useless?
rishi said:
Fire Build
Your build is better suited to Arenas with slightly shorter defensive cooldowns and more reliance on instant spells.
I stated that I use the build and I primarily do arenas. However, don't take imp Fireball because the cast time is simply fail unless you shoot people through trees in WSG, and for that I have Pyro.
rishi said:
You should spend a majority of your time hiding in the bushes so you can get your massive burst fireballs off, much more DPS.
My Fireballs on average are... 550 damage. 550 / 3 = 183.3 DPS, plus that you have to remain still for a full three seconds. Scorch is 200 / 1,5 = 133,3 DPS, which is a significant loss in damage but a huge gain in mobility. You will be seen in bushes as only complete idiots would not see red text in green bushes. Mobility is the key to success.
rishi said:
The range increase from Flame Throwing is no where near as useful as a range increase for Hunters. Mages spend too long casting for the extra 6 yards to be of any use.
Excuse me, what? You're claiming that +6 yards is negligible? If your tactic of hiding in the bushes would succeed, this would be a vital talent.
rishi said:
One thing I agree on is taking Ice Floes over Fire Power if youre more of a defensive player.
You yourself stated that Fire has lower survivability, so hence, if you're not keen on getting shred to pieces, Ice Floes is an amazing talent.
rishi said:
Frost Build
The only difference between your build and mine was that you took Winter's Chill over Imp Cone of Cold.
To be honest, I didn't even watch your builds, because I post from my experience and not from copying other people.
rishi said:
It really comes down to playstyle and your role in the game though.
Or if you play arenas.
rishi said:
Winter's Chill is better for middle-control players
It's also a debuff to dispell in arenas / BGs.
rishi said:
If you feel the need to shorten a spell cast by a measly 1.5 seconds every 2 minutes, then there shouldnt be much harm in taking a point out of Frostbite and applying it to PoM.
When put under pressure, getting someone off you without being interrupted might be the difference between life and death. Eat a CS on that Poly and you'll regret that.
The you continue with:
rishi said:
I dont know about you, but I never allow anyone to get close to me.
Why on earth would you EVER need Frostbite then? Contradictive. I know that you stated it as a response for the Fire-spec thing about not getting Imp Fireball, but this should be even more true when FCing.
While we're still at this quote, how can you ever not get focused if you're spitting out Fireballs? Any non-idiot would lock you down in an instant, you're begging for it when you think that hiding in bushes actually work.
rishi said:
Keeping distance is never a problem. Upping my DPS is my only priority when playing DPS spec.
You never act as a support and play with the team? Running in for the Blastwave to save your healer and then using Scorch + Fire Blast to finish one off? Upping DPS as your only priority, you sound like you've done too much PvE.
rishi said:
Youre going to find it very hard to stay in the small 6 yard gap where everyone except for Hunters can reach you.
1. Hiding in the bushes 41 yards away is better than hiding in bushes 35 yards away, even though it makes me laugh thinking that hiding in bushes would conceil you from opponents.
2. You can start casting earlier, getting more damage off before an opponent can strike back. Might not up your DPS but at least your damage output.
3. It gives you survivability. You're basing most of what you're saying on a situation where you're put under no pressure.
rishi said:
Very rarely should you be dueling in a battleground, so very rarely should it take 5 Frostbolts to kill someone.
Have you ever heard of a healer? Also, I use it to create a debuff to dispell more than the effect, although the effect is by all means not bad. I don't need more than 2 stacks for it to be useful. And not everything revolves around BGs.
rishi said:
If I use my cooldowns as soon as they pop, I know Im maximizing my DPS. It could just be my play style though.
Not everything revolves around maximising your own damage-output. As a Mage, BGs are very much a place to act as a support class. It's hardly a place for personal performance as much as teamwork, and Magi have such a wide arsenal of support-spells, which should be utilised in order to maximise the overall efficiency of the team. So if you're playstyle is to solo-perform and do nothing but try to hit #1 on the damage done-list, yea.
And yes. For me, arenas > BGs. However, my speccs would be very much viable in a battleground, they might have a bit more support and survivability, but imo that is what Magi are about.
