Just want to admit, lately i have been getting my ass molly-whopped in bg's when I solo que and end up with 9 other F2P. Either way, im getting thomped. Alliance players are getting stronger. Kudos
MOLLYWHOPPED
- Thread starter Michael Bishop
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A lot of this comes from the fact that when you're the sole 24 on your team we tend to focus you. I don't like your farming tactics but I'll be the first to admit you're a damn beast. I know I focus on you entirely when I catch you in a BG. But thats mostly because I know that as soon as I let you or anyone else from your guild get over on us that we'll spend the rest of the 25 mins being farmed.
Danmit was hopping for another Earl Sweatshirt thread
Give it time and it will happen. Let things flow accordingly.
Fourtwennay I was taught that containing alli at their graveyard while capped 3 flags quickly is a solid plan to execute but i rather saw it as farming. What are your guy's oppinions. And as ret most of the time I will be squished like a bug but catch me as holy with a decent dps with me its on haha. I just got Best in slot EXCEPT the 1 more int to my bracers...*** gnomer
If this is a serious question, then I agree with you, its farming. I've said it before, I'll say it again. You can call it controlling, farming, containing, w/e you want, the end result is one team not making it out of their gy. I run premades daily, and though I have no control over the other 5 pugs, I do call people out for being anywhere near the horde gy. And the ones that run with us already know better than to be over there. It just makes for a more fun experience when half the team doesn't /afk out because they don't want to be the ones helping the other team get geared.
None of this is directed at anyone specifically, so if you find yourself insulted, then think about why instead of blaming me.
I see the argument that it is a control method, but it is also just a game with no real benefits when won (epeen growth aside), and to me it shows that you can't win legitimately so you choose to exploit a mechanic of the game to ensure you can just shoot fish in a barrel.
I guess it's just a matter of gentlemanly rules of engagement, (coming from a rogue right?!?!?!). That and due to the new map, it's kind of a terrain exploit when ranged stand above the GY spawn and shoot down.
All in all, it's the same as the 5 cap AB then penn them in their starting zone gates.
So if you wanna GY camp, don't expect any respect.
Bob
Hmmmm i respect you bob. i get what your saying. we just want the quickest wins to que up and do more quick wins and holding alli down at the gy is how to do it. it is not fun for us either, its rather boring, but it seals the win pretty much and gets it over with. now say we didnt do that, if we didn t control the gy then it would give you guys the chance* to win. if we had a choice to not give you a chance or too give you a chance why wouldnt we choose not too? `definently accepting the title "d i c k" lmao. i que solo more often then with other members so catch me alone 1v2 or something
^ That's what I'd like as well, to understand the reasoning more than anything.
Sure, quick wins, more queues. But unless you're farming BOAs for other twinks, seems like a "fair" game would be more fun.
Idk about you but I don't enjoy a game where we 3 cap. My favorite games are the ones where it comes down 2-2, both teams with flags defending, and one team manages to win with under a minute left. Even if you lose, its still the most fun you'll have in wsg. Thats why I play, for fun, idk about the rest of you.
Sure, quick wins, more queues. But unless you're farming BOAs for other twinks, seems like a "fair" game would be more fun.
Idk about you but I don't enjoy a game where we 3 cap. My favorite games are the ones where it comes down 2-2, both teams with flags defending, and one team manages to win with under a minute left. Even if you lose, its still the most fun you'll have in wsg. Thats why I play, for fun, idk about the rest of you.
Yeah i agree 2/2 games are alot funner but when EPlC rolls in a bg with 8 or so players its like....do we try to make it a 2/2 game? Its just way to easy to get a 3/0 cap in 6 minutes. That is unless we go up agains Extended Trial, it boils down to 1/1 flags and a turtle for a few minutes lol. Thats why i usually que solo or with 1-2 of my guildies, alot of fun.
I can see a quick 3 cap when you queue eight 24s. Less insult. But I don't think you need to GY farm to do it.
Personally if I was guaranteed to lose, I'd rather have the fast loss like you said, but the GY farming is like /spit.
I'm willing to bet eight 24s can run a 2 on FC and 6 on EFC retrieval and easily 8v10 a full F2P 20s team.
Bob
6 24s aren't needed for retrieval really. Because there won't be a full team defending, someone has to try to return the flag for the other team as well. 6 24s is really overkill on offense lol. Hence why 24s are disliked, they're crazy OP against 20s.
Crazy OP doesn't equal skill. When a mage is keyboard turning around, not blinking, not recalling his pet, not using anything really then all the HP in the world don't mean a thing.
Honestly F2P hunters are just as bad as most 24s if not worse, due to the ridiculous range, options and pet.
Heh, to be fair, by your own logic, FC+healer is overkill too then if both are BiS 24s
But to be fair, my experience on FC healing is from vanilla in the 59s, but it seems like in the 20-24s a decently set up healer can outheal/support a well set up FC if both know how to move. We used to run Druid FC a lot and would just travel form run if necessary in hard matches (granted our druids had the bonus run from grandfathered 58 blues set bonues, and more utility in bear.).
I've been running mostly retrieval as a F2P and 2-4 on FC D is really hard to zerg against even if you know what you are doing. FC holding Debuff helps, so does bad hunters getting distracted.
Hard to say though. Isn't there only two 24 guilds anyway?
Bob
I agree, those kind of games are the reason I still twink. Tough games where you're under pressure for the full 25mins, with strong teams both sides. It's all about persistence, even when you're getting dominated, smart thinking can win the game even while being GY farmed by stupids.
Everyone's view on farming is different I think. I believe every players mentality towards farming changes over time. At first, farming is pretty appealing. Especially if you've been sucking as a non-twink, and you specifically gimp your gear out to get revenge on those emote spammers who killed you over and over. Then over time, as you you kill an endless stream of noobs, the farming gets boring, and you appreciate the challenge instead.
I stumbled across the 29 community back in 2007 or so, and at that time discovered there existed a sort of 'twink etiquette', a kind of way to show respect to each other, and that included not farming, using /spit emote and such. It was at that point i sort of adopted a different behaviour toward twinking. The farming under GY tactic is ok for me, if you can end a game in 7 minutes and re queue in hope of a better game. I mean, If you are able to kill them back to their GY so soon, it's obviously going to be a crap game. There's no way to make it fair if you're steamrolling everything. Just 3cap and reQ. I will almost definitely cap at least 1 of the flags, and the rest of the time i'll be farming, and returning our flag.