Lets talk 10v10s

[Bmac]

ok. so f2p can queue wargame battlegrounds since wod hit. this means its easy to queue now for 10v10s without spending hours trying to queue into each other. why there hasn't been any since we know we have the ability to queue for them now i dont know, but we should.

AP is where we should be queuing for the 10v10s. if most of the people you have on your team are on a separate server tho, then you will need a toon on AP to queue otherwise we cant queue the wg. if you disagree with this then it will make things more difficult because then each team would need a p2p 20 or we could only queue 9v9s. still i will probably have a p2p 20 on my team, but not everyone has that option.

AP is just where a lot of ppl have full geared f2ps, you do not have to be part of the whole community by playing there. If you decide to make a whole team on AP for this and that is the case, then you can make a separate chat channel, name it after your team, password it, and i'll post the name in a thread.

yes i will make a thread with team names and rosters if people want. you would have to pm me your team name and all of the armories of your teammates.

i am forming a team of my own atm on ap alliance, if you are interested in joining pm me. tell me what classes you can play, link armories, and leave your skype. feel free to tell me if you have any endgame experience, any other brackets you play, or any previous 10v10 experiences.

i hope that those of you who read this will feel encouraged to form a team. especially since bg queues are retarded now.


-Bmac (Twinkenstein)

 

[Kincaide]

ok. so f2p can queue wargame battlegrounds since wod hit. this means its easy to queue now for 10v10s without spending hours trying to queue into each other. why there hasn't been any since we know we have the ability to queue for them now i dont know, but we should.

AP is where we should be queuing for the 10v10s. if most of the people you have on your team are on a separate server tho, then you will need a toon on AP to queue otherwise we cant queue the wg. if you disagree with this then it will make things more difficult because then each team would need a p2p 20 or we could only queue 9v9s. still i will probably have a p2p 20 on my team, but not everyone has that option.

AP is just where a lot of ppl have full geared f2ps, you do not have to be part of the whole community by playing there. If you decide to make a whole team on AP for this and that is the case, then you can make a separate chat channel, name it after your team, password it, and i'll post the name in a thread.

yes i will make a thread with team names and rosters if people want. you would have to pm me your team name and all of the armories of your teammates.

i am forming a team of my own atm on ap alliance, if you are interested in joining pm me. tell me what classes you can play, link armories, and leave your skype. feel free to tell me if you have any endgame experience, any other brackets you play, or any previous 10v10 experiences. Brewmaster Warlock and Rogue roles are taken for now, but also feel free to pm me anyways in case something comes up.

i hope that those of you who read this will feel encouraged to form a team. especially since bg queues are retarded now.


-Bmac (Twinkenstein)

I'm interested in this and I do think both factions of AP are strong enough in number to field teams. You might run into some issues over the next week or two though with people being out for the holidays. I know myself that I will be out of town until next Sunday (I'm on my laptop for foruming) so if you don't get a full 10 team this week, don't despair and don't give up. I believe there are a lot of people who want to do this, it's just a matter of finding the best time to do so.

BTW I can offer arms warrior and BM monk on AP Alliance, and an awesome rdruid if we can crossrealm in. I'll probably be developing an AP rdruid as my next project. I also have a hunter but I don't really play that class.

 

[Broken]

You'll have to set up matches as Horde vs Alliance. I've heard if there's 2 Alliance or 2 Horde teams facing each other, ressing at Gy starts to bug (Ally won't properly ress at Horde Gy and vice versa). That was a while ago, so maybe it's gotten fixed by now.

Looking forward to see how this turns out!

 

[Mol]

You'll have to set up matches as Horde vs Alliance. I've heard if there's 2 Alliance or 2 Horde teams facing each other, ressing at Gy starts to bug (Ally won't properly ress at Horde Gy and vice versa). That was a while ago, so maybe it's gotten fixed by now.

Looking forward to see how this turns out!

Battlegrounds and Arenas:
Warsong Gulch: Players in a Wargame or Rated Battleground should no longer be sent to the wrong graveyard.

Fixed by 3th of December!

Source:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/16561638/603-hotfixes-december-19-22-12-2014

 

[LennywBT]

This is quite a nice idea, i would totaly like to join in my CrossRealmed warlock, i think ill spec to Demonology or destruction--- my warlock is on signature !!!

You'll have to set up matches as Horde vs Alliance. I've heard if there's 2 Alliance or 2 Horde teams facing each other, ressing at Gy starts to bug (Ally won't properly ress at Horde Gy and vice versa). That was a while ago, so maybe it's gotten fixed by now.

Looking forward to see how this turns out!

Congratulations on your Administrator tittle, -- I for one think that you completely earned it, since you are always online and ready to help!!! Thanks!!!

 

[Bop]

Yes, congratulations to [MENTION=10938]Broken[/MENTION] for that. He's definitely earned it.

I'd like to maybe see about getting with [MENTION=6328]Snowjobs[/MENTION] to get a BWL team together. We'd need 1 anchor on AP, but that shouldn't be so hard.

 

[Snowjobs]

Sadly I'm out of wow or the holidays as there is no internet at my home in TN so I won't be able to play until probably December third when I head back up to Indiana . On the other hand if the games are after the third I would love to get involved .

 

[AlbinoCow]

Bop, Activate and I have been talking about this for a while now, we tested somethings earlier in wod. F2P restricted P2Ps can que on any team with f2ps, but must turn their exp on to beable to take the pop. Same faction bg wargames are fixed now, and we easily have the skilled and experienced players to do them.The night we tested this was not scheduled but we still got enough ppl (just barely) to log in and test things. AP is most definitely the target server to hold them on, but since many of the ppl intrested in doing these wargames have p2p accounts on the side, picking up ppl is easy. All in all i see 2 choices in how to approach 10v10s. Get ur 10 man and challenge anyone to vs u, or actively form teams between ppl interested like we did during the summer with HB

 

[Bop]

Actively forming teams seems like the best option.

It's very difficult, if not nearly impossible, to get together an "A-team" of 10 players and search out other teams.

Although this can work (specifically in server vs. server match-ups), it's very hard to plan in advance and get 20 specific people on and ready to go at the same time. It's much easier to get a core group of people and then pick up extras as needed - which is basically what we did for every single Sunday 10v10 last summer.

If this were endgame, you'd be able to organize an A-team event simply because of the rewards of participating in Rated Battlegrounds :/ alas, we do not have that luxury.

 

[Bmac]

Actively forming teams seems like the best option.

It's very difficult, if not nearly impossible, to get together an "A-team" of 10 players and search out other teams.

Although this can work (specifically in server vs. server match-ups), it's very hard to plan in advance and get 20 specific people on and ready to go at the same time. It's much easier to get a core group of people and then pick up extras as needed - which is basically what we did for every single Sunday 10v10 last summer.

If this were endgame, you'd be able to organize an A-team event simply because of the rewards of participating in Rated Battlegrounds :/ alas, we do not have that luxury.

yea but it wouldn't be competitive at all if we threw pugs together. if there are real teams and one loses to the other they will feel like improving and trying to beat them, and other people would want to form teams to vs who ever is the top team, etc. it just needs to start somewhere. i'd rather wait a while for real games than throw together ones, you can just queue as a 10 man if u want to pug and coordinate with 9 other people. you can try to say they are competitive, but when you have a team of 10 people who never play with each other its just not fun, and people can just blame their loss on the team they got stuck with.

 

[Kincaide]

I like the idea of pick-up games as well, since it also allows for one individual to play different characters instead of being locked to a particular class for a particular team comp. We had success organizing AV Weekends just be advertising it (and it stopped when advertising stopped), so let's just pick a day and advertise the heck out of it. Sundays seem good and I might even be back in town and at my computer this coming Sunday. (Call me 85% sure on that.)

 

[Kincaide]

yea but it wouldn't be competitive at all if we threw pugs together. if there are real teams and one loses to the other they will feel like improving and trying to beat them, and other people would want to form teams to vs who ever is the top team, etc. it just needs to start somewhere. i'd rather wait a while for real games than throw together ones, you can just queue as a 10 man if u want to pug and coordinate with 9 other people.

Sorry for double post but I only saw this after I posted my other post. I don't think you should think of them as pugs, since you're still talking about people from your active realm, and if that realm is AP, then we mostly know each other and in most circumstances have grouped with them before. Calling it a pug brings up visions of random people running around the game not knowing what they're doing. At least for AP, I can say that you can expect a better breed of teammate.

 

[Bmac]

Sorry for double post but I only saw this after I posted my other post. I don't think you should think of them as pugs, since you're still talking about people from your active realm, and if that realm is AP, then we mostly know each other and in most circumstances have grouped with them before. Calling it a pug brings up visions of random people running around the game not knowing what they're doing. At least for AP, I can say that you can expect a better breed of teammate.

i don't like the idea of servers being known as a "guild" or a "team". i haven't played on AP in a long time, im getting people from other brackets and stuff to play for my team. im not trying to represent a server, im trying to represent the people playing with me, regardless of what server they are from. it is more rewarding winning as a team against a team then a throw together.

 

[Zehj]

yea but it wouldn't be competitive at all if we threw pugs together. if there are real teams and one loses to the other they will feel like improving and trying to beat them, and other people would want to form teams to vs who ever is the top team, etc. it just needs to start somewhere. i'd rather wait a while for real games than throw together ones, you can just queue as a 10 man if u want to pug and coordinate with 9 other people. you can try to say they are competitive, but when you have a team of 10 people who never play with each other its just not fun, and people can just blame their loss on the team they got stuck with.

the pug games buns organised were all competitive

obviously premade vs premade will be more competitive and that's great as long as it actually is premade vs premade and not premade vs pug, which wont be competitive

 

[Kincaide]

i don't like the idea of servers being known as a "guild" or a "team". i haven't played on AP in a long time, im getting people from other brackets and stuff to play for my team. im not trying to represent a server, im trying to represent the people playing with me, regardless of what server they are from. it is more rewarding winning as a team against a team then a throw together.

That's fine, there certainly shouldn't be a requirement to represent as a server. It just happens that the players that one is likely to know best, or at least be familiar with their playstyle and attitude, will the people on their same server, and I was using that as a counter-example to thinking of pickup teams as pugs. If you want to craft a 10-man organized team, more power to you, I think that's great. If it came down to either having to pick up a few players, or not getting to play at all because one or two of the crafted team members aren't online, I would personally take the pickup players any day. The bottom line is to have fun. I'm sure as a community we can make that happen.

 

[Bmac]

there isn't anything wrong if you guys want to organize some pick up games. it would get more people into doing 10v10s i guess. feel free to do them, im just stating my opinion on why i dont find them fun, i just feel like its somewhat rng, and wouldnt be able to take a win or loss personally if i had no say in who's playing on my team. it just lacks a sense of accomplishment. its not like pick up game teams cant be good teams, its just whats left after the game is over?

if you want to do a pick up game for this sunday tho, id say make it fun like an xmas event and have every wear the winter hats.

 

[Fry]

If there's the chance to make a pug, I'd like to participate.

I don't think my realm can get a team of 10, sadly. And I doubt anyone would include me in their team... not many close friends in the bracket :s

 

[Bop]

I'd be willing to search for 10 Horde players. I probably could pull a group together.

The problem is that getting everyone's schedules to match up is basically impossible.

I'd definitely be willing to try. Having time-flexible, interested players is quite a challenge.

 

[Pooh]

Me [MENTION=18826]Bop[/MENTION] and I I can't, give to someone more important than me

 

[Fry]

Me [MENTION=18826]Bop[/MENTION] and I I can't, give to someone more important than me

It is trying to communicateeeeeeee!! D:

Just kidding , but seriously, what was that? I'm afraid I didn't get it D: