Human vs Undead

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Humans - [Every Man for Himself][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] : Removes all movement impairing effects and all effects which cause loss of control of your character. This effect shares a cooldown with other similar effects, 2 minute cooldown.[/font]



[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Undead - [/font][Will of the Forsaken][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] : Removes any [/font]Charm[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif], [/font]Fear[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] and [/font]Sleep[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] effect. 2 minute [/font]cooldown[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif].[/font]



[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Should undead get 2 AGM's? [/font]
 
Human/bloodelf>everything else for most classes. sad but true. Certain classes can get away with being another race and still do well but the majority of them benefit more from human and blood elves racials at this level.
 
Undead look cooler so go undead (they also have much better racials you can even use cannibalize whilst in stealth since 4.3)

obv win to undead
 
True lol Undead do look the best and I didn't know about using [font=trajan, tahoma, arial, verdana, tahoma, sans-serif]cannibalize[/font] in stealth thanks for that
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ud is best race



do u ever see alliance arc mages



always crowded with priests @ alliance, so shr and wotf > arc torrent and arc resist
 
lmao



1 sec where you can damage and he cant heal



-> fear, 6 sec where you can't damage and he can heal



belves r werthless in eu
 
obviously, gnome is the best rog race for alliance, and goblin is the best race for horde. better kiting routes available, better racials.
 
sure it might be good if alliance d team stacks upon each other



you should go belf if its better.



having my fear resisted by random ud rogue 4/5 times sure sucks
 
Damage123 said:
Human/bloodelf>everything else for most classes. sad but true. Certain classes can get away with being another race and still do well but the majority of them benefit more from human and blood elves racials at this level.
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As the #1 NE rogue, I must defend my race. Night Elves are the most AWESOME rogues ever. They are #1, and any hordies who have played against me can tell you how annoying my Vanish is (I have Shadowmeld down to a science now).



NE rogues or gtfo.
 
Snèaky said:
As the #1 NE rogue, I must defend my race. Night Elves are the most AWESOME rogues ever. They are #1, and any hordies who have played against me can tell you how annoying my Vanish is (I have Shadowmeld down to a science now).



NE rogues or gtfo.
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NE could be decent if used correctly, but I prefer human for overall stats. The extra stamana is great, but the true icing on the cake is the expertise bonus, which combined with foremans gloves provides alot of expertise. take that and combine that with hit rating cap and you shouldnt miss, at least not often.
 
Human vs undead.



Would you rather be dead or alive? Simple



Sneaky #1 NE rogue? Hahaha another subpar rogue who knows how to ambush. Then shadowstep back to your target when they get away. And after ambush you could not use another skill and kill several different classes.
 
undead died imo at the end of BC, blizz did a stealth nerf of the 5 sec immunity to fear in the summer of 2008 and then short time later gave it a semi shared CD with PVP trinks



me and my friends who rolled undead 2 rogues and a warlock in BG's, etc. would get feared hit WOTF and be instantly refeared. we noticed instantly when it started. did GM tickets and would only get "works as intended". did some posts on wow forums, they would get fan-boi trolled and deleted. some times undead would ask in trade chat if anyone is having issues with the same thing. we told them do a ticket.



we were amazed and said AH HA, when the preview to WOTLK prepatch showed that 5 sec immunity was being removed...blizz fags had already did it, stealth nerf as a live test. since S4 was pretty much over and new players were rush leveling to get ready. it went unnoticed and not complained about.



another example stealth nerfs was vanish failing.no documented or admitted changes. it also started having issues within that same last patch of BC going into the prepatch of WOTLK, it allows got works as intended answers. but it was way more noticeable than a re-fear. forums where swamped on that one and took blizz a long time to fix that one. it was so bad, that a 70 rogue aggro'd by a level 18 mob, could hit vanish or Cos/vanish and the low level mob would see thru and pop you back out. wasn't like that thru-out van-wow and 95% of BC
 
yeah that was the rebuff for losing the 5 sec immunity, they made 100% longer underwater breathing (compared to other races) go to 200% real handy in BGs and arenas.... then to add salt to the undead wounds they boosted all races the old UD underwater breathing.
 
Nudge said:
Sneaky #1 NE rogue? Hahaha another subpar rogue who knows how to ambush. Then shadowstep back to your target when they get away. And after ambush you could not use another skill and kill several different classes.
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We'll see about this on Sunday night, Nudge.
 
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