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...for a 19 mage?
I'm going for more of a bazooka, stacking spell power hardcore.
Glyphs too?
I'm going for more of a bazooka, stacking spell power hardcore.
Glyphs too?
Arcane, Fire, or Frost?
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Subutex
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On my mage i got arcane missiles to crit 125+(around 300-400 total dmg done usually) with 1 tick when using the arcane missiles glyph and the specs survivability is nice because of the Magic Absorption and Frostbite(assuming you would use 7/0/3 talent spec)
Frost cannon spec, doesnt do nearly as much dmg but is op in arena because you can kite and because of the healing reducing talent Permafrost(this is the spec i used in arena 0/0/10 but you can also use 2/0/8 which helps against priests alot)
Frost nova glyph is used on these specs because it will help against classes you really need to keep the distance from and only fireball glyph is viable competitor to be used since (fireball will still sadly do more dmg than frostbolt) there really arent many "twink glyphs" to 19's
Frost cannon spec, doesnt do nearly as much dmg but is op in arena because you can kite and because of the healing reducing talent Permafrost(this is the spec i used in arena 0/0/10 but you can also use 2/0/8 which helps against priests alot)
Frost nova glyph is used on these specs because it will help against classes you really need to keep the distance from and only fireball glyph is viable competitor to be used since (fireball will still sadly do more dmg than frostbolt) there really arent many "twink glyphs" to 19's
Audiofreak
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Thankyou very much, Subutex.
Yes, I agree with the glyphs... For Minor it's a joke- either Penguin or Slow Fall.
Unfortunately, at 19, mages don't get any real +crit talents... Although "Ice Shards" does provide a nice boost.
If fireball is doing so much more, why not roll fire? Arcane is nice, damage wise, but with a fireball+fireblast combo, you're spending almost as much mana as arcane missiles, comparable damage, and not having to sit like a duck for 5 seconds.
Yes, I agree with the glyphs... For Minor it's a joke- either Penguin or Slow Fall.
Unfortunately, at 19, mages don't get any real +crit talents... Although "Ice Shards" does provide a nice boost.
If fireball is doing so much more, why not roll fire? Arcane is nice, damage wise, but with a fireball+fireblast combo, you're spending almost as much mana as arcane missiles, comparable damage, and not having to sit like a duck for 5 seconds.
Subutex
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i agree with you, glass cannon spec fire truly does most dmg but thats because you can get 190+ fire dmg from gear + fire potion(+10 fire spell power), you cant get nearly as much to arcane or frost because there are no of the arcane/frost available(with exception of gloves and wrist which give you 4 more spell power with the cost of +2 spirit and +9 intellect) but the reason i favor arcane over fire is its ability to survive better against other casters and against locks for example you still get dmg trough with arcane missiles + fire blast combo when you cant cast that 2-2.5second fireball(due to fear spam)
Frost has the healing reducing talent which on 5v5,3v3,2v2 or premades against healers is quite nice when your not the only one to dmg the target because as i have said before, frost crits are around 180-250 which is an average hit to a fire mage(ranks are fucked on 19 and 39 where you get 1 rank higher fireball than frostbolt, in 29 and 49 its reverse)
when talking about pure dmg, nothing on a mage in 19 can compete with Fire, Arcane can get to nearly to the same numbers but with higher mana cost and Frost isnt competitive in pure dmg but when having someone to back up your dmg, your enemies are screwd
Frost has the healing reducing talent which on 5v5,3v3,2v2 or premades against healers is quite nice when your not the only one to dmg the target because as i have said before, frost crits are around 180-250 which is an average hit to a fire mage(ranks are fucked on 19 and 39 where you get 1 rank higher fireball than frostbolt, in 29 and 49 its reverse)
when talking about pure dmg, nothing on a mage in 19 can compete with Fire, Arcane can get to nearly to the same numbers but with higher mana cost and Frost isnt competitive in pure dmg but when having someone to back up your dmg, your enemies are screwd
Audiofreak
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Hmmmm, good point.
I will have to try this frost spec, after all, it is the PvP spec.
How did you get the 180-250? If that same character, geared and specced appropriately, were to cast fireball- what would it be hitting?
I don't have access to BoA items, and quite frankly I don't like 'em- but have a quick look at my plan:
character planner . 19 mageee . chardev seven
Ignore the missing head and trinket... Hehe, I'm going for the fishing hat and grandmaster trinket. What do you think of that? Like I said, full blown glass cannon.
I will have to try this frost spec, after all, it is the PvP spec.
How did you get the 180-250? If that same character, geared and specced appropriately, were to cast fireball- what would it be hitting?
I don't have access to BoA items, and quite frankly I don't like 'em- but have a quick look at my plan:
character planner . 19 mageee . chardev seven
Ignore the missing head and trinket... Hehe, I'm going for the fishing hat and grandmaster trinket. What do you think of that? Like I said, full blown glass cannon.
Audiofreak
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Eliot said:
LOL, that was my fire plan...
It's very early days, so I'll muck around with the fire and frost, and see what's cracking.
Audiofreak
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Eliot said:
Thanks, I'll add that one right away =)
Audiofreak
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Eliot said:Sorry, mis read it you caught me before I edited it
Ok, check now- character planner . 19 mageee . chardev seven
Any ideas to boost that spell power, or is that the max?
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooh, I'm getting the pre-twinking giddies!
Audiofreak
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Eliot said:
^^Pro.
Jutebraid, for only that 2 more armor and that nasty quest- I think I'll leave that one out.
Subutex
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jutebraids are op looking +2 more armor, they are must have just for cosmetic reasons
otherwise the chardev is quite good looking now,change [ITEM]20427[/ITEM] to [ITEM]45626[/ITEM] for hit and put +5 all resist imo(70 armor is good too but casters are always a bigger concern since cant kite them)
well without berserking,feast,flag carrier debuff the crits were ~180-225 and up from there depending on the buffs i had or the debuffs my target had. To answer your second question about the fireball hits i would say its around 200-250.
Im sorry but i cant give exact numbers of the dmg output because i have quit playing and cant access my twink anymore.
otherwise the chardev is quite good looking now,change [ITEM]20427[/ITEM] to [ITEM]45626[/ITEM] for hit and put +5 all resist imo(70 armor is good too but casters are always a bigger concern since cant kite them)
well without berserking,feast,flag carrier debuff the crits were ~180-225 and up from there depending on the buffs i had or the debuffs my target had. To answer your second question about the fireball hits i would say its around 200-250.
Im sorry but i cant give exact numbers of the dmg output because i have quit playing and cant access my twink anymore.
Audiofreak
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Hehe, crazy twinks... I'm going to be deviate delighted 24/7, lol.
It's only 2.36% at level 19, you sure it'll make more of a difference than 1 SP and 2 Spirit?
Thankyou very much, that helps put things into perspective. The mage is the only character I haven't played extensively.
It's only 2.36% at level 19, you sure it'll make more of a difference than 1 SP and 2 Spirit?
Thankyou very much, that helps put things into perspective. The mage is the only character I haven't played extensively.
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Head: Lucky Fishing Hat
Neck: Thick Bronze Necklace
Shoulders: Reinforced Woolen Shoulders
Back: Battle Healer's Cloak
+5 All Resistances
Robe: Inferno Robe
+150 Health
Wrist: Crystalline Cuffs
+15 Spell Power
Hands: Serpent Gloves
+20 Fire Spell Power
Waist: Shimmering Sash of Fiery Wrath
Legs: Shimmering Trousers of Fiery Wrath
Reinforced (+24 Armor)
Feet: Spidersilk Boots
+7 Stamina
Ring: Advisor's Ring
Ring: Bronze Band of Force
Trinket: Insignia of the Horde
Trinket: Arena Grand Master
Two Hand: Staff of the Blessed Seer
+30 Spell Power
Ranged: Banshee Rod of the Sun
Best, excluding BoA, 19 fire twink gear?
...also excluding the 2 armor bonus from Jutebraid.
Neck: Thick Bronze Necklace
Shoulders: Reinforced Woolen Shoulders
Back: Battle Healer's Cloak
+5 All Resistances
Robe: Inferno Robe
+150 Health
Wrist: Crystalline Cuffs
+15 Spell Power
Hands: Serpent Gloves
+20 Fire Spell Power
Waist: Shimmering Sash of Fiery Wrath
Legs: Shimmering Trousers of Fiery Wrath
Reinforced (+24 Armor)
Feet: Spidersilk Boots
+7 Stamina
Ring: Advisor's Ring
Ring: Bronze Band of Force
Trinket: Insignia of the Horde
Trinket: Arena Grand Master
Two Hand: Staff of the Blessed Seer
+30 Spell Power
Ranged: Banshee Rod of the Sun
Best, excluding BoA, 19 fire twink gear?
...also excluding the 2 armor bonus from Jutebraid.
Audiofreak
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Grabco said:
Where do you see them?
Crilicilyn
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cape is satchel
Audiofreak
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Crilicilyn said:
Crilicilyn
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satchel of loot, from the random lfg dungeon tool