80 twinks

With cataclysm coming around the corner, who else is going to leave on of their T10'd alts at 80 to be a twink some time later?
 
not I. cant see many people doing it (aka no xp off BGs)....sooo only reason would be to not get cata and faceroll levelers in BGs. except with stat inflation in cata and possibly well itemized gear (now that there's so few stats to choose from) it might not be extremely easy to kill 84s...or however the new brackets will look for that matter.
 
Brutessa said:
With cataclysm coming around the corner, who else is going to leave on of their T10'd alts at 80 to be a twink some time later?



well seeing as lvl 79 greens are item level 290ish I doubt T10 will be what 80 twinks will wear :/
 
80 twinks imo even wrathful gear won't cut it, cata greens/blues that are 300+ish items maybe from quest rewards would probably be BiS and be able to use the cata enchants and hope they have sockets to add some mixed cata gems to get some resilience back.
 
You guys are fucking stupid, those 79 greens will be shit in comparison to Wrathful gear just due to them having 0 resilience. Shanker you sir are a noob.
 
79 greens? what about the 80+ blues (and greens) he was talking about from quests/dungeons....the massive stam difference would make up for loss of resil, but it's still a retarded idea.
 
ØhnØes said:
You guys are fucking stupid, those 79 greens will be shit in comparison to Wrathful gear just due to them having 0 resilience. Shanker you sir are a noob.



said nothing about 79 greens, but from what they have been saying on MMOchampion....think it was a 80 mage on the PTR said that his GS was higher in quest greens and blues than his ICC gear.



yeah they may not have wrathful gear res....however no wrathfull gear or ICC gear can get cata enchants.....the new enchants are brutal and require 300+ items.



if blizz limits the cata gems, leg armors, head and shoulder enchants to 300+......those items have pinball inflation compared to anything WOTLK. in that case, if a 80 twink is or was too be viable they would be doing in in cata gear that meets 300+ item level req. but from what i read a 80 twink will have a hard time also killing a 81 or 82, if what blizz has blue posted on scaling of power from 81-85.



i have 70 twinks, they are able to play the 70-79 bracket BGs due to being allowed to use wotlk ench, gems, leg armor kits. 60 twinks in BC greens and blue gear that take sockets are killer too in 60-69. only see 80's in cata greens and blues doing the same......from info so far.
 
doubt you'll get the title come cata soberz, or you sayin' you already have it



oh and i dont think the gear jump will be too extreme barring the enchant/gem scenario. cuz i mean in one of the first instances it looked like the boss drops were side/upgrades from icc 10 gear, not icc 25 or heroic gears. so we'll see. also what would the brackets be? 71-80 av and 80-84 all else?
 
i would like to point out that the 70-79 brackets will be screwed over with cata a bit, because all this 300+ gear that is 79+ will....yes thats right be available to level 79s. Your level 70 will be steamrolled by a 78-79 in cataclysm quest greens. So the idea that 60 and 70 will remain the same is wrong, only 60 will be the same.
 
Ugarak said:
i would like to point out that the 70-79 brackets will be screwed over with cata a bit, because all this 300+ gear that is 79+ will....yes thats right be available to level 79s. Your level 70 will be steamrolled by a 78-79 in cataclysm quest greens. So the idea that 60 and 70 will remain the same is wrong, only 60 will be the same.



60's are not exempt

67-69 wotlk greens/blues are brutal, but so are BC greens and blues that have multiple socket slots, 2 of my players were 69 twinks with heavy wotlk gems....had no issues with any 60 in BC blue/greens or in T2-3 epic gear. no helm a 60 twink could have could touch my "stealther's helm of second sight" along with many other pieces i had including some wotlk items. blizz's BG split up caused me to level to 70. i had a 69 with zero xp, a full bar to 70, lasted 2 days on a COA weekend and popped.



Same for 70's

my 70's are BC capped, 77-79 players with CATA 77-79 greens/blues will be no different than above, near same situation. before the BG split up, i would not have even taken a 70 into 70-79 bracket, because many twinks had the crafted 8 piece blue PVP sets with resilience built in. sometimes players still put on those sets, but they will not last long and will level out. same will happen with 77-79's in cata gear.....enjoy 2-3 days max in the XP BGs....gone.



if twinking comes back in the AV XP off brackets a 60 will not see a serious 69 twink, and a 70 will not see a serious 79 twink unless you play in WSG, AB, EOTS



btw...if you follow twinking. 60 and 70 twinks became popular when blizz did the BG split up for XP on - off. before that they rarely ventured into 60-69 or 70-79 brackets
 
Falkor said:
doubt you'll get the title come cata soberz, or you sayin' you already have it



oh and i dont think the gear jump will be too extreme barring the enchant/gem scenario. cuz i mean in one of the first instances it looked like the boss drops were side/upgrades from icc 10 gear, not icc 25 or heroic gears. so we'll see. also what would the brackets be? 71-80 av and 80-84 all else?



when AV was 71-80, there was alot of QQ, then blizz put 80's in there own. that was way before the now added 5 more levels of epic gear. it was so bad some 80's could solo 15 players that were 71-79's.....even multiple 79's couldn't kill them. will have to wait and see?



if blizz goes back to 71-80 braqcket for AV......80 twinks would be viable, but more than likely would only see AV action on AV CoA weekends.
 
shanker said:
may be old news



Cataclysm: Minimum iLevel for Gems



looks like they have a 285-item limit on CATA gems. not sure if any of the WOTLK gear is 285?



highest lvl gear in LK is 284 from 25 h LK and 25 h halion, so 80 twinks, if there are any, wont be enjoying cata gems





also if multiple 79s, especially 79 twinks, couldnt take out a single 80 in ulduar/toc gear they fail...hard
 
Falkor said:
highest lvl gear in LK is 284 from 25 h LK and 25 h halion, so 80 twinks, if there are any, wont be enjoying cata gems





also if multiple 79s, especially 79 twinks, couldnt take out a single 80 in ulduar/toc gear they fail...hard







I can take out full relentless Rogues/warriors preetymuch any melee >:O but ret pallys because they can lolhealtofull :( on my mage.
 
Soberlolz said:
I can take out full relentless Rogues/warriors preetymuch any melee >:O but ret pallys because they can lolhealtofull :( on my mage.



yea but multipleee

and several seasons/raid tiers prior

i haz doubts
 
it's past common knowledge, extensive QQ on forums, etc etc. why 80's were put in their own bracket when it came to AV. the 71-79's that 80's were destroying weren't twinks or even BC geared players. as for 79 twinks, that hardly even got off the ground. much of this was going on when ret-pal and DK's hadn't been fully nerfed down yet and were still running around in god mode. there was alot of QQ by 80's that lowbees blow the games and are forced to spend time to form premades. well they are all 80's now and they still have to form premades



AV is much different than playing let's duel 1 vs 1 dorko outside WTF-ever city.
 
I have been playing my 80 4/5 wrathfull dk, changed from unholy to frost pve and reforged mastery also using 277 pve rings / neck and some nice cata weapons, seems a good amount of res. The account is w/o cata and it seems all level 80s in the bg.

These cata green wearing fools are being crit for 18ks with just howling blast lol, the AoE is intense. VERY fun, AV and IoC are amazing, all NPCs are 84-85 elites equaling a farm fest, hehe old school AV bosses again!

In IoC, Glaives are godly hitting 60k Sieges 1 hit anything, take WS then Dock, break their wall, cap everythin, and line that siege up infront of thier GY and hehe.. BOOOOOM.

Averaging 250 kills per IoC and about 300 per AV with 0-10 deaths depending if im being healbotted or what. Theres good queue times so i think alot of players still dont have cata but not alot are very geared.

Its been fun in a crazy way.
 

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