20 Prot Warr (stam set)

Balditron

Balditron

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Logged out in nuke set. Lemme know what you think :)


Hey guys, I just completed my max-stam set for my FC warrior. I know that if it was truly "max" I should take spidersilk boots, but I dont feel the loss of armor and str is really worth it for 1 more stam. (However I have made this sacrifice with the shoulders as these scale up to be +8 stam over the heirloom ones which imo is definitely worth it.)

My toon:Balthasaur @ Draenor - Community - World of Warcraft

In bg's my total health scales to 3488hp.

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I thought this was quite impressively high. But, one of my guildies (a 24) is also working on a max stam set.

Their toon: Keepupffs @ Draenor - Community - World of Warcraft

As you can see, already he has 126hp MORE than I do when I am in my complete stamina set. And also he could pick up cloak, bracers and a ring which would give him another 5stam, putting the total difference up to 176hp.

I know the starting stam for tauren = 23 stam and goblin = 22stam and given that we aren't the same level, he will have more base HP than I. Coupled with the fact that the tauren racial gives an extra 5% health on top of base HP pool could this be where the significant health difference comes from?
I've been trying to figure it out, because with scaling, I receive more stam from almost every item than my 24 counterparts, yet they still pack a mighty HP pool.

Anyway this rating thread is turning into a baldi-rambling thread. Gimme a shout if you have any questions or advice :)
Thanks
 
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Unless you have a screen shot of your hp and armor in bg your armor is about 800+ less than a 24 that wears most mail pieces. Warrior is best for physical damage. A spriest will eat through you in that set if you have a 10 stack. Lose the shoulders for sure. Shield of stockades is better or at least boa shield. There alot more other change to make. Your not looking at stamina stacking with armor stacking.
 
All in all, that's one damn sexy 20.
Bonus points for being goblin.


(what honey said)
 
Honey badger said:
Your not looking at stamina stacking with armor stacking.
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Correct that's why I didn't post "max stam/armor set" :p
Though I'm not sure why you'd reccomend BoA Shield over Evil Prescence if that was your stance.

Flamescarred Draconian Deflector
917 Armor
7 Stam
4 Str
4 Parry

Shield Against the Evil Presence
999 Armor
7 Stam
7 Str

By your own advice, anyone can see that it's worse. Even:

Shield of the Stockades -Alliance-
1053 Armor
7 Stam
5 Int
5 Spi

Stocks shield just gives 54 armor vs 7 str from prescence (parry), so I'm not sure the difference will be too noticable. For sure parry vs melee > armor for 100% damage negation, but then again RNG & also hunters work off armor so it's a toss up.
All that aside though, I took Hogger's Shiny from stocks quest so that shield is not an option for me anymore :p

A spriest will eat through any warrior at 10 stacks, so I'm also a bit unsure what you're meaning there. Surely it would be best to be in that set with maximum stamina and a +5 resists cape? Armor wouldn't get factored in, only stam and resistance vs spriest. Granted, a guardian druid would be better in that situation for the magic resist, but its not like I can class change :p

I have your cookie cutter mail & stam items & heirlooms, but I just thought I'd venture into the world of max HP for fun.

Ty guys for the replies so far :)
 
Looks good but I'd say go 24 for pummel. Lots of situations where an interrupted mindblast can save you over a few extra hitpoints
 
As a FC warrior you don't carry about strength plus you should be wearing boa dagger with crusader. As far as a spriest warrior = physical damage reduction. That why you always pair a warrior FC with a disc priest. Bubble = all damage so you get the best of both worlds all damage reduced.

thats why a good warrior won't be as afraid of a 10 stack. Plus a good warrior at 24 can wear resist rings from gnomer and boe rings from ah depending on who the other teams best dps is . Good warrior has a high armor set, hi Max hp set, high resistance set and a dps set when a idiot picks up a flag and won't pass or to wear in blow out games, etc...


if you not going to wear mail armor n hp stack, your better to go with gaurdian Druid since he gets a 6 sec evasion thing in bear form.

24 warrior has too many advantages along with more options on gear set up and pummel is nice as well
 
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The difference in stamina comes down to Guarded by the Light - Spell - World of Warcraft vs Unwavering Sentinel - Spell - World of Warcraft. You'd have more health than a 24 warrior with that gear.

Prot Paladins get additional stam because they're lacking in mitigation. If both have heals, a warrior is undoubtedly a better tank.

Honey badger said:
Warrior is best for physical damage. A spriest will eat through you in that set if you have a 10 stack.
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Honey badger said:
As far as a spriest warrior = physical damage reduction. That why you always pair a warrior FC with a disc priest. Bubble = all damage so you get the best of both worlds all damage reduced.
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No. Warriors do have solid melee mitigation through shield block/high armor, but their best source of survivability is Defensive Stance - Spell - World of Warcraft. 25% reduction of all damage.

Pummel can be life saving, but it's also really situational due to positioning. IMO it's not worth losing the benefit of how sexy this warrior is, since the unscaled GFed gear won't be better than what's available at 24.
 
Honey badger said:
As a FC warrior you don't carry about strength plus you should be wearing boa dagger with crusader.
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Cheers for the heads up. I do roll with resi dagger & battlemaster trinket in pugs.

Honey badger said:
thats why a good warrior won't be as afraid of a 10 stack. Plus a good warrior at 24 can wear resist rings from gnomer and boe rings from ah depending on who the other teams best dps is . Good warrior has a high armor set, hi Max hp set, high resistance set and a dps set when a idiot picks up a flag and won't pass or to wear in blow out games, etc...
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It's maybe not that obvious in the SS i posted, but in the bottom right hand side I have some of my gear sets bound. Including all of the ones you've just listed. I also have gear sets for easy sword/board switches as I have 2x resi daggers and 2x tank BoA swords in my bags, so a simple /equip macro wouldnt always equip the correct enchant.

Thanks alot for the reponses btw, its always fun to talk tank with people. It's doing this that continues to inspire my to up my game and think of new approaches to FCing :) So cheers!


Honey badger said:
if you not going to wear mail armor n hp stack, your better to go with gaurdian Druid since he gets a 6 sec evasion thing in bear form.
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True, since the eva thing gives 100% dmg mitigation vs melee & ranged (if the dodges are successful). I'm not accustomed to seeing guardians in the gulch though so I dunno what the rage generation is like on them?


Swoops said:
The difference in stamina comes down to Guarded by the Light - Spell - World of Warcraft vs Unwavering Sentinel - Spell - World of Warcraft. You'd have more health than a 24 warrior with that gear.

Prot Paladins get additional stam because they're lacking in mitigation. If both have heals, a warrior is undoubtedly a better tank.
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Thanks for shedding some light (pardon the pun) on where that extra HP is coming from. I didn't even think to double check the tooltips. I just assumed that they would both be the same!
 
Balditron said:
True, since the eva thing gives 100% dmg mitigation vs melee & ranged (if the dodges are successful). I'm not accustomed to seeing guardians in the gulch though so I dunno what the rage generation is like on them?
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Rage generation is dogshit as FC druid...
 
Honey badger said:
As a FC warrior you don't carry about strength plus you should be wearing boa dagger with crusader. As far as a spriest warrior = physical damage reduction. That why you always pair a warrior FC with a disc priest. Bubble = all damage so you get the best of both worlds all damage reduced.

thats why a good warrior won't be as afraid of a 10 stack. Plus a good warrior at 24 can wear resist rings from gnomer and boe rings from ah depending on who the other teams best dps is . Good warrior has a high armor set, hi Max hp set, high resistance set and a dps set when a idiot picks up a flag and won't pass or to wear in blow out games, etc...


if you not going to wear mail armor n hp stack, your better to go with gaurdian Druid since he gets a 6 sec evasion thing in bear form.

24 warrior has too many advantages along with more options on gear set up and pummel is nice as well
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The faster the weapon, the less procs on crusader... Priest bubble = no rage regen from being hit with attacks... What are you talking about man?
 
Warriors proc crusader from charge. Plus every good lvl24 FC warrior wears that pvp dagger. We are talking about damage mitigation for a FC not DPS . What are you talking about?
 
Dagger has same stam as sword but you gain some resilience at lvl 20 it may be different. At lvl 24 both give 5 stamina
 
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