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I know. It kind of died when people started using this thread for showing their snipes, which wasn't the intention at all.

The parsings literally account for that, because you can check the gear of the shamans in the raid? It's easy to check if they're actually enhancement or not. They can be 2nd after Warriors if the rest of your raid is severely outgeared by the Shaman or they're garbage players. This is not...

Just like the other guy, you're doing mental gymnastics to try and prove Shamans are better than people think. When we got parsings proving literally otherwise. On top of that, you use some scuffed youtuber as reference, who can't even look at parsings himself and compare two different things to...

They're way further down than 2nd after Warriors. Even the site he uses himself to look at parsings, prove that.

Thanks. The MC numbers are heavily miscompared, though. He's comparing himself hitting on a dummy like it's a raid boss. To a fully buffed raid doing trash and bosses. Overall DPS throughout a raid is going be MUCH lower than someone hitting a boss/dummy to figure out his DPS. Also, he...

You're not going to play with a decent guild then, in terms of performance. Also, can you link the video showing him doing 750+ DPS in pre raid BiS gear?

Frost Shock, albeit little, is going to make you do less DPS. Also, not using Stormstrike at all is going to cut down on your WF procs. Point still stands. You're still looking at Warriors and Rogues doing more than that. Also, can you link the video?

He's using Earth Shock on cooldown, which is most likely going to draw aggro. He's also using Stormstrike, which takes up a debuff slot and is not worth it. The debuff slot taken doesn't increase the Shaman's DPS more than it decreases the overall raid's DPS. So 750~ DPS in absolute BiS gear...

Do that. Doesn't change anything from what I've said.

How exactly is a druid going to proc the weapon? They can't wield axes and they can't proc weapon effects in any druid form. Hunters is way better as well, because they can spam instant attacks, like the Warrior, which is why the Shaman have one of the worst Nightfall uptimes. Because they got...

In terms of Nightfall uptime it is considered one of the worst wielders of it, because they rely on auto attacks to proc it, along with Windfury, and about any class wielding it, except for paladins, have a higher uptime, due to instant abilities. It is fact that they're one of the worst...

Mana is not the problem at this point, with the exception of a few fights or if your guild is below average or trying Molten Core in green gear and not everybody being level 60, like the guilds have been doing this past week. There's no excuse at this point, to not be chugging mana potions and...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I remember it was still part of a very specific albeit niche set most serious rogues had. The same way most serious warriors gear dedicated for blocking.

Hey, Just figured since a lot of people are coming back to twink in Classic, it would be nice to get a discussion/list going of some of the most sought after items, which is going to skyrocket in price, so we can either get them early while everybody's trying to make some easy money or to sell...

I haven't been twinking since late WOD, but I take it that the Legion invasion gear is GF'd? If so, how does that work with non-GF'd twinks, is there a big difference? Also, does stat distribution of your ilevel gear matter? Or is it all normalized? Like, does it matter if it has crit or haste...

I'll just quote myself. "That's my biggest concern, the fact that someone which doesn't give a duck about his items, enchants and so forth" I'm clearly indicating that I'm talking about items and enchants and similar things. The entire post you quoted is mainly talking about gear and ilevels...

I think it was quite obvious that I meant in terms of gear and not skill. All of us here, know that the average twink would be performing better overall, just because of the sheer knowledge and time used in the lower brackets.

This has nothing to do about being flowers. This is about the fact that I like that twinking actually required a good amount of money, farming or some form of theorycrafting in how to get certain things which wasn't intended to be gotten at that level. I understand that skill matters and it's a...

Gotcha, was just making sure I wasn't missing something. Because if this is the case I probably won't play my twinks.

Question is if the ilevels/base stats we can get above the "average" player would matter. I mean, if it's going to be a 1, 2 or 3 shot fest like it's been lately, won't a twink vs. non-twink in BG's not matter at all, and basically everybody is on a even playing field? - I get that it wasn't...