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Deep abyss of ilvl + add keys between 20 and 29 twinks. Shit balance between specs , like hunts, arcane, rshams etc Broken gems, like HP regen > than dps of some specs No one wants to play this.

Around 100~150 with legacy loot x2. For 4 items with slot + tert I got ~ 30 just slots epics

And your luky is also matter. Coz you can get the same gear what you had. For example (not WF, but epic too). For hundreds runs for circle of flame + socket + lich, I just got socket+speed x3 and zero socket+lich.

Today this 20-29 is bigger shit, than last 4 years of a half-hunter teams bgs. 29 dmg "buff" growing much more faster, than HP pool. Alot oneshots between 29's , like HB up to 6.7k+, arcane blasts up to 3.7k, aimed 3.6k+... shadowburns 3k, sunrise 2k+... and other shit. No need to talk about...

With full third_speed + boots_minorspeed + 2%speed_buff_on_back + spectral_racovery_talent you will have 187% speed outdoor as passive stats on 20lvl. I think - on 29 you will have +/- the same in the highest ilvl gear. With General's Mail Boots it might be aroud 200%

Why only "vets" in title? Is it so big difference between vets and "pure" trials? Mostly its only time for gearing, chanting etc. All other difference is around 1~5% of full avalable BIS. What is the question? May be is about fair and intresting game? So... I see hunter at topic starters avatar...

What about crusader enchant? Around ~ 50 of 100 str is a bugged part

The system broke down ;D When ally had ~ 27 reinforcements we destroyed their walls ( its minus 50 reinforcements) and finish this BG like this...

BM= Surv, MM? Elem and ench in the same tier with healers? And higher than SP, restor sham, mist monk? Balance=feral=guardina and all are C tier? Afli in the same tier with fire and frost?

What high lvl I need for legacy loot for my twink? 50-52 char is not enough.

21-23lvl will farm green BOEs 17r-25ilvl weap,offhand/shields in Nazmir/Drustvar

Yours offers - Toksh#2688

I just need a few days to freshen up my gear and let the subscription burn out. is there any precedent?

A little... In TWO times :D The same CD for Fshock - 6sec

Did you played Eshammy?0_o 230 its a crit to Fshock. ~130 noncrit. All of this in ~280sp and ~13%versa

Yea, but restor's abilities do x1.7~x2 more dmge than elem's. Earth shock - too long and too hard to collect the maelstorm. With good offhealing I can use earth shock just 3~6 times per BG and its only 3~7% of my total BG's dmge. For example : elem's lightnings ~200, lava ~230, Fshock per tik...

Spec > Vet > F2P

Tested on arena: ~30 will scale to ~54 for 20->29

This bracet is totaly disbalanced and this problem not only because someone has +9lvls and chants. Some times fotm is > than chants. For example: pure tfp arcane > vet fire, and may be ftp arc =/> 29 fire. The same story with elem and restor shammy, feral and moonkin/restor and some other specs...

This ability of 24lvl. The author ask about 20. As vet - yea. Coz eleforce x2, satyr + others chants = trial dmge * 200% As trial - I don't think so. Elem with his kiting will be better